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Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: Laukev7 on 6 June 2004, 19:24
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/06/06/132200.shtml?tid=153&tid=99 (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/06/06/132200.shtml?tid=153&tid=99)

Don't get me wrong, I am against any forms of child abuse, but this sets a frightening precedent. How much power will the telecoms get if they can block any website they want, and by extension the governments if they can just order a telecom to censor material they don't like?
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: Refalm on 6 June 2004, 20:57
I'd leave my ISP if they blocked any part of the Internet. That's just plain wrong.

The Internet is an open infrastructure. If you want to stop child pornography on the Internet, just sue the bastards. The government is authorized to ask IP numbers from ISP's and webhosts. So government, next time, don't be a communist, but arrest the people who host such websites.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: Aaron Ni on 7 June 2004, 03:56
The old fashioned way of hiding the problem rather than facing it, out of sight out of mind.

It's never worked.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: KernelPanic on 7 June 2004, 12:36
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron-V4.0:
The old fashioned way of hiding the problem rather than facing it, out of sight out of mind.

It's never worked.


Old fashioned? No, just western culture.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: cahult on 7 June 2004, 16:25
The child molestors now, who
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: mobrien_12 on 8 June 2004, 05:53
Ok. Something sounds fishy to me.  

If these illegal child-porn websites exist, why not just shut them down?  To block them, you need an IP address, or a DNS entry (either of which must be known for it to work as a website).  So track it and shut down the source.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: flap on 8 June 2004, 14:20
Because they're in other countries.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: Laukev7 on 8 June 2004, 19:32
In any case, censoring child porn will not prevent children from being abused. It will just prevent people from seeing it, and the pedophiles will simply find another way to trade the material.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: solarismka on 9 June 2004, 05:04
quote:
Originally posted by Laukev7:
In any case, censoring child porn will not prevent children from being abused. It will just prevent people from seeing it, and the pedophiles will simply find another way to trade the material.


I 100% agree!  Instead of wasting time with this 'blocking' evil sites nonsence.  How about helping to end child abuse.  Not just child sex abuse but phycial and emotional abuse too.  There are too many 'soccor moms' that get kicks in beating their child for a power trip!
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: Aaron Ni on 9 June 2004, 07:01
quote:
Originally posted by Tux:


Old fashioned? No, just western culture.


It's everywhere Tux, "Out of site, out of mind" seems to come naturally to people in power around the world.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: hm_murdock on 9 June 2004, 22:20
Not so much in traditional eastern nations. For centuries, they preferred the very direct approach of "arrest and kill the badguy" rather than "cover it up".

That proves yet again that the east is superior to the west.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: flap on 9 June 2004, 23:43
I don't think you can accuse BT of "covering it up rather than dealing with it". A telecom company doesn't exactly have the jurisdiction to shut down illegal websites in other countries.
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: solarismka on 10 June 2004, 02:30
quote:
Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP

That proves yet again that the east is superior to the west.[/QB]


Didn't know that the east and west were in a boxing match.   (http://tongue.gif)

[ June 09, 2004: Message edited by: -=Solaris.M.K.A=- ]

Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: Annorax on 15 June 2004, 15:23
quote:
Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
Not so much in traditional eastern nations. For centuries, they preferred the very direct approach of "arrest and kill the badguy" rather than "cover it up".

That proves yet again that the east is superior to the west.


Death sentence for kiddy porn traders is a good thing. Blocking kiddy porn trading sites at the ISP is bad, because then the cops can't access them to verify that they really are kiddy porn, and there's always that chance that something not sick and disgusting can get blocked.....
Title: British Telecom blocks child porn websites
Post by: mobrien_12 on 16 June 2004, 02:26
quote:
Originally posted by Annorax, Lemming Pathfinder:


Death sentence for kiddy porn traders is a good thing. Blocking kiddy porn trading sites at the ISP is bad, because then the cops can't access them to verify that they really are kiddy porn, and there's always that chance that something not sick and disgusting can get blocked.....


I see your point.  In fact, microsuck might get blocked because it has "suck" in it's name, and "kiddie porn" in one of it's threads.

On the other hand, I can sortof see the ISP's side too.  They have to make sure they are not an accessory to a crime within a reasonable limit...