Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Laukev7 on 14 July 2004, 06:11
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Please, ignore Jimmy James and stop answering his posts. It only feeds the flames and helps him make his case for banning politics.
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How about the fucking free speech to talk about our opinions on politics, and why we don't like it, and Captian Fucking Kirk?
oh, sorry, by free speech you MUST have meant "Bu$h kills babies"
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I sense that the Lounge is going to go though another period where it turns to shit for a little while. Jimmy is once again the main cause.
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You and Jimmy James are those to talk about my 'binning'.
http://erudition.illhostit.com/viewtopic.php?t=1980 (http://erudition.illhostit.com/viewtopic.php?t=1980)
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I see that jimmy is doing the same shit on erudition. I dont even use that forum.
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Sorry, I was talking to Sauron.
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Jimmy is once again the main cause.
Except that I'm not. I posted a picture, it got binned because Laukev has a burr up his ass. I put it back, it get the axe too.
I put it back again. If it gets binned, then Refalm will be involved.
The issue this time is that Laukev took it personally that Stryker banned politics from Erudition.
Why do I bother. You're going to say it's all my doing anyway.
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posted a picture, it got binned because Laukev has a burr up his ass. I put it back, it get the axe too.
What was the purpose of that picture? Why did you bin the picture I posted on Erudition if you don't consider it spam?
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You are calling me a troll over a photoshop CRITIQUE?!
weak.
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I didn't call anyone a 'troll' as far as I recall, even less you for posting a critique of my hack job. I said you were pots calling the kettle black.
In fact, the only one who called someone a troll was Jimmy James.
[ July 13, 2004: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
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I think the picture is funny, and want to reply saying so.
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it's not your place to determine the value of the post, or to decide anything about it.
you are not a policymaker, you are not an "enforcer". you're a member of a community.
start acting like it.
you guys wanna know what the beef is?
Stryker banned politics at Erudition of his own free will. Stryker himself decided this. Laukev took it personally and is now
1) trolling at E
2) hounding me here
guess what, Laukev... nobody ever had a personal beef with you, but you made it personal. you're the one who has taken things too far and have crossed the line. you people seem to think that I'm just some loan gunman out to ruin your day with my "trolling".
but you know something? I'm part of a group of people who believe that we should ban political discussion from this forum. you talk about "free speech"... but it's a double standard. you act as though you should be free to talk about whatever the hell anti-Bush mess you want, but if someone says "politics sux" you leap on it. if someone posts, for example, one of the favorite images of the members of this forum... you bin it.
I posted Captain Fucking Kirk because the members like it. but you're too busy crying about your loss of goddamn politics to care.
since I'm not a shithead, I have one question to ask you, Laukev
do you still want the 7200?
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Agreed jimmy (http://smile.gif)
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Jimmy James,
I won't lie to you, I resent you whining about politics and causing it to be banned on Erudition. However, you are trying to get it banned on Microsuck as well, and I consider this an issue completely different than Erudition.
Some of RKmaster's posts got binned because they contained only one picture. So I treated your posts according to tradition. On the other hand, I posted a picture similar to yours on Erudition, and I got called a troll. Yet that was the only one out of about five posts that could be called 'trolling'. So your accusations of me having double standards is quite ironic.
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Jimmy had no hand in getting politics banned at E laukev. That was all stryker.
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He blabbed loud enough to make it heard. But even then, I was not even targeting Jimmy James in particular until he came to bring it over to Microsuck.
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But even then, I was not even targeting Jimmy James in particular until he came to bring it over to Microsuck.
so you admit that you're hounding me because I want to get rid of politics.
keep making our case for us.
this gets easier and easier.
also, I like your logic...
"RKmaster made one-image threads, and we binned them. your thread has one image, so it should be binned."
so, it's allright to bin your one-image thread?
you're being childish, man. just stop. let us do what we want to do. let things play out the way the members want them to. you don't run this place, so stop acting like it.
it isn't making anybody's life better... especially not your own.
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What are you talking about? I didn't bin your picture threads because of the political dispute (it certainly didn't help, but just your past record at pulling stunts like that would have been quite enough). I meant that my disappointment was not towards you in particular until you started on Microsuck, and I duly responded that I won't let the same thing happen on Microsuck.
As for the image I posted on Microsuck, you're completely missing the point. I wasn't saying that you shouldn't bin my thread, I was saying that you should stop accusing me of censorship if you were going to do the same.
[ July 13, 2004: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
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I wasn't accusing you of censorship, though... no, no, we've been through that before.
I was ticked off that you would do it then... and it looked to be in retalliation to my anti-political ruminations.
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Perhaps I was wrong, then, but I thought your picture thread was to spite me. Not that I have anything against CFK, but you looked like you were spamming the boards, like you often did before in similar situations (but that could also have been my perception).
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I assure you I wasn't... although, I knew that was your reasoning. it also looked at the time like you were spamming so as to cover up some of my threads
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This whole argument is both stupid and pointless. I'm not sure what to make of the whole political situation here, but I can see that nobody is interested in taking it seriously. Similarly, the only people that want to continue allowing politics to be discussed on this board are quick to make rhetorical references to "free speech" while at the same time using that same opinion to quash those of others. THIS IS WRONG. It also, by the nature of its usage, effectively neutralizes the entire argument in the first place. You can discuss politics, but you can't discuss the possibility of not allowing such devisive issues to be discussed ON A COMPUTER FORUM. This whole debate is childish and, whatever the outcome, I am disappointed that there was even an argument on this front in the first place.
EDIT: Before anyone gets it through their head otherwise, this board is NOT a democracy. We do not vote in our admin nor our moderators, nor do we have any say in their ultimate decisions. It has no constitution, though we attempt to abide by basic human and civil rights. It is, by definition, a military dictatorship more than anything. What the members CAN do to preserve this society is do their best to stay in the good graces of the people with whom they must work. This kind of devisive argument is non-productive at best.
[ July 13, 2004: Message edited by: Midnight Candidate ]
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Actually, I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is even open to debate. I'm not going to censor political threads in the lounge no matter what anyone says or thinks, pure and simple.
Case closed.
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don't you understand tht most problems in this place would e solved by abolishing politics from discussion here?
Go to a politics forum if you want to talk politics, this is not the fucking place.
1 vote to ban politics from discussion here.
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No. Deal with it.
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Originally posted by Laukev7:
Some of RKmaster's posts got binned because they contained only one picture. So I treated your posts according to tradition. On the other hand, I posted a picture similar to yours on Erudition, and I got called a troll. Yet that was the only one out of about five posts that could be called 'trolling'. So your accusations of me having double standards is quite ironic.
Double standards would be deleting a post because it contained only an image and then making a post with just an image.
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Originally posted by xyle_one:
Jimmy had no hand in getting politics banned at E laukev. That was all stryker.
Jimmy had a big hand in it.
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Originally posted by Laukev7:
Actually, I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is even open to debate. I'm not going to censor political threads in the lounge no matter what anyone says or thinks, pure and simple.
Case closed.
You can be replaced, don't think you're all powerful.
My opinion, most members seem to want politics to stay, so they should stay unless the webmaster, or the majority of the members that frequent here, says otherwise.
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Laukev7: Sorry, I was talking to Sauron.
What's the difference?
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Can you fuckers not read (http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002132)?
This discussion is going on here (http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002126&p=2).
[ July 18, 2004: Message edited by: Tux ]
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Tux: Can you fuckers not read (http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002132)?
This discussion is going on here (http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002126&p=2).
Contact me on AIM. I'll show you how to use the UBB
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EVERYBODY SHUT THE BLOODY FUCK UP!!!
Sheesh, you guys are acting like a bunch of schoolchildren.