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Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: skyman8081 on 9 July 2004, 13:17
Read: http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm (http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm)

I don't trust anybody with political motivations, including Moore.
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: zolo on 9 July 2004, 13:25
That's pretty thin and smells of desperation.

What Moore does do it make assertions that he doesn't back up.

zoo

[ July 09, 2004: Message edited by: zolo ]

Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: solarismka on 9 July 2004, 21:33
Alot here I see is nick picking and no evedence that moore was infact 'incorrect.'  He may have stated some negative things out of hast but then when it comes to bush he could make anyone angry!

 
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Fahrenheit presents a powerful segment on the September 11 attacks. There is no narration, and the music is dramatic yet tasteful. The visuals are reaction shots from pedestrians, as they gasp with horrified astonishment.

 

Moore has been criticized for using the reaction shots as a clever way to avoid showing the planes hitting the buildings, and some of the victims falling to their deaths. Even if this is true, the segment still effectively evokes the horror that every decent human being still feels about September 11.

 

But remember, Moore does not necessarily feel the same way. As New York
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: hm_murdock on 10 July 2004, 03:13
Blah blah blah. Moore is a whiner. I wanna see the flick, though, because I heard it's knee-slappin' funny.

I don't watch flicks for that reason, I watch them to be entertained. If I want enlightenment, I read a book.

Moore should write some books and I'll read 'em
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: solarismka on 10 July 2004, 03:19
quote:
Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
Blah blah blah. Moore is a whiner. I wanna see the flick, though, because I heard it's knee-slappin' funny.

I don't watch flicks for that reason, I watch them to be entertained. If I want enlightenment, I read a book.

Moore should write some books and I'll read 'em


thats actualy a VERY good point! and one I would definnatly agree with!

Movies are supposed to be for entertainment.  If I wanted to know something thats what books and the net is for.  


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Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: xyle_one on 10 July 2004, 04:54
Movies are meant to sell you stuff.
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: solarismka on 10 July 2004, 05:28
quote:
Originally posted by xyle_one:
Movies are meant to sell you stuff.


....for entertainment
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: cahult on 10 July 2004, 07:08
JJ is absolutely right. Movies are only for entertainment and fun. Books are for enlightenment and information. How many documentaries about a frank topic without any kind of humourous remark did we see that are 2 hours long?
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: insomnia on 10 July 2004, 07:23
quote:
Originally posted by cahult:
How many documentaries about a frank topic without any kind of humourous remark did we see that are 2 hours long?


Try Rosetta (or any other belgian docu/film).

(http://www.casorezzo.com/cineweb/images/FilmProiettati/Rosetta.jpg)

Thing is, ...
I don't think these type of movies work in america.
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: Xeen on 10 July 2004, 07:24
quote:
Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
Blah blah blah. Moore is a whiner. I wanna see the flick, though, because I heard it's knee-slappin' funny.

I don't watch flicks for that reason, I watch them to be entertained. If I want enlightenment, I read a book.

Moore should write some books and I'll read 'em



He has written a few books. One of them is the bestseller "Stupid White Men". One of those men is course Shrub.
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: Commander on 10 July 2004, 08:22
stupid white men was great. and so was dude, where's my country.  the latter has more facts about 911 than the movie itself.  good books.
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: Stilly on 10 July 2004, 08:53
well farenheight9/11 wasn't as good as bowling for columbine.

i just didn't find it as entertaining.

but moore's movies are known to screw up some facts for the sake of making them more interesting
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: hm_murdock on 10 July 2004, 21:12
precisely the point. I bet his books are much less... how should we say... "fantastic"?
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: Stilly on 10 July 2004, 21:15
yeah but the thing about books that keeps a lot of people form them is you have to read them
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: solarismka on 10 July 2004, 21:49
quote:
Originally posted by The Stiller:
yeah but the thing about books that keeps a lot of people form them is you have to read them


true true.  Bowling for colombine was good?  I didn't know if I should of rented that one or not.


Hmmm maby I should rent it.
Title: 59 deceits in Farenheight 9/11
Post by: hm_murdock on 11 July 2004, 01:12
quote:
yeah but the thing about books that keeps a lot of people form them is you have to read them


Doesn't stop me... but then I'm an intellectual elitist and feel that I'm better and smarter... that just makes me feel even more right. :-D lol