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Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 2 July 2002, 23:10
Why don't we set up a fuckmicrosoft/microsoft eradication society counter strike clan for those of us that were interested. We could some of our microsoft hating passion into some good games of CS. If you would be interested pleeeease relpy, then we can have an idea of the numbers to see if it could work.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: lazygamer on 3 July 2002, 04:07
Hehe FMS/MSES CS clan=w00t!

Question is, how would you get in? Is it for those who are excellent CS players only? Perhaps you can only join if your an anti-microsoft dude(that means you acknowledge this site as sacred and you agree with most of what it says, even if you still have wind0ze).

A clan server would be a good way of linking to this site. So when you join the server, you would have a link to this site.

I like CS, but IMO it's less about realism and more about a teamwork aspect.(even if you don't see that enough on public servers)
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: choasforages on 3 July 2002, 07:06
NOOOO, not a windoze game. howabout quake1/2/3 or say wolfenstien. there are both avialabe on mac and linux. that would be the better solution.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: lazygamer on 3 July 2002, 07:42
Lol! Well it depends on how well it runs(and how easy it is to get to run) under Linux.

Isn't there some above average Linux support? Like Linux versions of some mods and Linux server files etc.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: choasforages on 3 July 2002, 07:51
umm, a quake3 mod is crossplatform. as long as it was made on the same version, like a mod for 1.27 insn't compatible with 1.31 and such forth

and for support. quake has always been on the linux platform
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: ravuya on 3 July 2002, 08:29
counter-strike is, IMHO, full of bigoted homophobic morons. it's like playing a game with a bunch of Mac Hater-like people who keep accusing you of cheating, despite the fact that 98% of them are cheating.

it seems to also be the #1 reason why people are sticking with windows... hmmm... could there be a link?
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 3 July 2002, 10:23
isnt counterstrike a windows only game??? What the hell would be the point of starting an MS-only game on an MS server, played by people only using the MS OS????????????
Quake is a better idea. I think i might have quake2 or 1 for linux.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: lazygamer on 3 July 2002, 10:51
Ok this is a good fundamentalist issue. Problem is, is there any good mods(ESPECIALLY mods with much players) for Quake 1? That's the thing about Half-life, the player base size.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 3 July 2002, 10:57
I'm sure that we could make some of our own mods   (http://smile.gif)  
there is quite a bit of MODS for it though....why do we need mods?

[ July 03, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]

Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 3 July 2002, 12:36
There is linux dedicated server and it runs under WineX well apparently. I am going to buy WineX so i will see how it runs. But a clan for some of the other games is a good idea too, quake series, UT etc
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Kintaro on 3 July 2002, 13:06
Good idea, so whats the deal, should we make it a website (i can do that, you all know my "L33t" web design skills  (http://smile.gif) ) http://exeleven.cjb.net (http://exeleven.cjb.net)

Anyway so what should we start with...
[MES]Ex Eleven / B0B
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Kintaro on 3 July 2002, 13:15
quote:
Originally posted by Master of Reality / Bob:
isnt counterstrike a windows only game??? What the hell would be the point of starting an MS-only game on an MS server, played by people only using the MS OS????????????
Quake is a better idea. I think i might have quake2 or 1 for linux.


If you play it (i do at lan partys) you would notice that the servers have aa penguin next to them if they run linux. And half-life/Linux is quite popular, the same applys for COunter strike
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 3 July 2002, 21:28
Yes, lets do it.
>> everybody drop your suggestions in sooner rather than later.
I have sone webspace on host.sk if we are really in need of free hosting. It is Croatian, not particularly fast but it supports CGI, MySQL and does not have a ridiculous TOS.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Interscope on 3 July 2002, 23:16
quote:
Originally posted by * Tux *:
Yes, lets do it.
>> everybody drop your suggestions in sooner rather than later.
I have sone webspace on host.sk if we are really in need of free hosting. It is Croatian, not particularly fast but it supports CGI, MySQL and does not have a ridiculous TOS.



Croatian? Where did you get that idea?

I'm a croat, and I can't understand shit it sez.

.hr domains are croatian, btw.

And Counter-Strike sucks... To much cheaters even with Valve's Anti-Cheat software. Either their code sucks or alot of people want the cheats. I don't see alot of cheats in UT. Only 1 or 2 working aimbots lying around, and they don't do too much if you have a chainsaw and the enemy a rocket launcher  ;)  The HL code sucks, it's too exploitable.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 3 July 2002, 23:27
I actually meant czech
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: lazygamer on 4 July 2002, 02:27
Well there is always Firearms(a half-life mod). Alot more realistic(or at least somewhat) and has a totally diffrent feel to it, along with less cheaters/lamers. It's smaller then DOD and way smaller then CS, all without being too small to have enough server.

The reason why something like CS was mentioned has to do with it's fanbase. Everyone knows what CS is, your guranteed to gets tons of players and clans and servers.

I'd love to join a clan, especially a fuck microsoft clan. I mainly play Half-life, although im sure I could somewhat easily get ahold of Quake, Quake 3 or UT.

The big problem is, servers for X cool non-HL mod.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 4 July 2002, 06:32
quote:
Originally posted by Ex Eleven / b0b:

If you play it (i do at lan partys) you would notice that the servers have aa penguin next to them if they run linux. And half-life/Linux is quite popular, the same applys for COunter strike


so is there a version of the actual game for Linux... or just the server?
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Kintaro on 4 July 2002, 07:41
Im pretty sure you can get a Copy of the actual game for Linux. Loki also have lots of games (I got Unreal for Linux from there) Also they have Q3A which could run Return to castle wolfenstiene if you copy the .pak files. LokiGames install really easily.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 4 July 2002, 07:56
i dont see it listed here (http://www.lokigames.com/products/)
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: sporkme on 4 July 2002, 15:34
my suggestion, regarding the afformentioned arguments, opinoins, articles, and such, heretofore, particular, subservant, and et cetera is....

FUCK IT

WHO CARES IF IT RUNS IN WINDOWS OR NOT

let's just create units or teams or leagues for whatever game on whatever platform with a prefix:

FMS_

then, whenever some lamer asks, FMS meand FUCK MICROSOPHTTTTTT yo [@^^eRR phaggiot now delete it AHHHHHH

what better way to spread the word?  i KNOW the elites whose hands have slaughtered me in so many games are RIGHT HERE talking SHIT but NOT backing it up actively (no offense, just rallying)

get the gamers in!!! and just imagine knowing that fuckers like goosefucker cock and xpHOzer are dying over and over again with th BFG9000 crying to granny AHHHHHHH

do it fucker to it!! if you need a freebsd server i got one with power windows JUST FUCKING ASK ME AHHHHHHHHHH

kill the fuckers if they don't join

ASL?  death.

sorry
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: badkarma on 4 July 2002, 17:44
whoa sporkme ... forgot to take your valium?   :D

to get back on topic:

a RTCW clan would appeal a lot more to me (seeing I don't have CS anymore and couldn't get it running with WINE either)

[ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: BadKarma ]

Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Calum on 4 July 2002, 18:45
these games are all to confusing for me, can we set up some sort of internet version of XBill? maybe it could use the real internet as the levels? you know, so that whenever you stop Bill Gates from stealing one of your operating systems, a real windows machine goes down? how hard could it be to write this program?

i kind of like the idea now i have thought of it! of course, it would need to be constantly updated since it would probably count as 'malicious code' in the corporate antivirus updates, and it would need to move with the times to be able to insure that it could really fuck up windows machines. Still, what an incentive to play!
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: lazygamer on 4 July 2002, 19:25
LOL! I'd love it. Just make sure it has something to protect home PC markets, many of us still have wind0ze on our box.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: para_fms on 4 July 2002, 19:59
oooooo, my favorite subject: HL/Counter-Strike! just had to chip in on this one...

NO - HL (client) has not been ported to linux, though i had read around a year ago that a port has secretly been in development for some time. well, a year later and still no port. i wouldn't count on there ever being a port either. vALVE is notoriously slow in these areas. and since HL hasn't been ported, obviously CS cannot be ported. however i'm told that HL/CS runs quite well under WINE.

saw a few comments on the problems with the HL code. well, that is true. HL/CS is thee most popular multiplayer FPS game there is by a factor of around 2, in spite of the fact the quake based engine is 3 yrs. old, with hundreds of thousands of players on-line at any one time and a 5 million+ player base. when you have something that incredibly popular, poor code or not, it's going to get hacked -- especially in the gaming community where there are a whole LOT of malicious hackers. this is certinly not something specific to CS however. dealing with cheaters is an every day thing for any reputable server admin and tools other than vALVE's anti-cheat software are freely available and manage to be pretty effictive.

if you are looking for quality, mature people and cheat-free servers, there's plenty to be had. look around. and the above statement that "98% of them are cheating" is totally off the mark. that simply just isn't so. yes, there are cheaters, but any half-baked server admin can easily and effictivly deter cheating due to a wealth of anti-cheat tools in addition to the recently developed technoligy introduced by vALVE.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 4 July 2002, 21:17
Right we seem to have mixed opinions and i know how to sort it out.

We are going to start a clan for various games - INCLUDING HL/CS

* If you wan't to join, then do so, and help with the planning.

* If you do not FUCK OFF and stop giving other people grief.

OK?
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 01:18
Well.. I have half-life game of the year edition and can download counterstrike for it and i have a windows machine... but i might play it through VNC from my linux machine    (http://smile.gif)   , so i will join if someone gets a server running.
I could make and host a website for it too and get the vhost counterstrike.fuckmicrosoft.com.

http://chatroom.fuckmicrosoft.com:8000/counterstrike.html (http://chatroom.fuckmicrosoft.com:8000/counterstrike.html)
hows that for a basic template. And is someone else wants to help make it i might give them a ssh account (X11?)

[ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]

[ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]

Title: Counter Strike
Post by: lazygamer on 5 July 2002, 02:04
Well when I get HL running, I MAY(may as in "I'd love to, just gotta find out about my time") join a CS/non-CS Half-life FMS clan.

HL might not be so bad under Wine because:

1:Linux is susposed to take better advantage of high power(well it's susposed to be, but it's wind0ze fault) stuff like 433's, 384mb ram, and a Voodoo 3 card.

2:Running windows stuff under Linux is susposed to make it more stable(thus it don't crash so much etc). I know I've had HL crash on me for NO FUCKING REASON.

3:Even if im still emulating windows, what if im only emulating the gaming ability and not all that other useless crap, so thus it could take better advantage of my hardware(or more resources). So in theory, I MIGHT not lose much performance. Im not overly confident in improved performance, but I am hopeful in equal performance.

Testimonals anyone?
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 02:21
I couldnt get halfilife to work under WINE... but there is a HOWTO to get it running under wine at http://lhl.linuxgames.com/ (http://lhl.linuxgames.com/)
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Kintaro on 5 July 2002, 10:29
quote:
Originally posted by Master of Reality / Bob:
Well.. I have half-life game of the year edition and can download counterstrike for it and i have a windows machine... but i might play it through VNC from my linux machine     (http://smile.gif)    , so i will join if someone gets a server running.
I could make and host a website for it too and get the vhost counterstrike.fuckmicrosoft.com.

http://chatroom.fuckmicrosoft.com:8000/counterstrike.html (http://chatroom.fuckmicrosoft.com:8000/counterstrike.html)
hows that for a basic template. And is someone else wants to help make it i might give them a ssh account (X11?)

[ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]

[ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]



Yea, im in, i could use a SSH account, and yea im in. FTP would help too, but if you want a hand i will help you....
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 10:30
could use scp to copy small things over through ssh
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Kintaro on 5 July 2002, 10:36
quote:
Originally posted by lazygamer:
Well there is always Firearms(a half-life mod). Alot more realistic(or at least somewhat) and has a totally diffrent feel to it, along with less cheaters/lamers. It's smaller then DOD and way smaller then CS, all without being too small to have enough server.

The reason why something like CS was mentioned has to do with it's fanbase. Everyone knows what CS is, your guranteed to gets tons of players and clans and servers.

I'd love to join a clan, especially a fuck microsoft clan. I mainly play Half-life, although im sure I could somewhat easily get ahold of Quake, Quake 3 or UT.

The big problem is, servers for X cool non-HL mod.


FireArms Kick's A$$ what about TFC and maybe SI.
Antoher good mod i downloaded is Scientest Hunt  (http://smile.gif)

FireArms is the most realistic mod i've ever used.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Kintaro on 5 July 2002, 10:41
Windows XPiss crashes... as in just freeze's when you close half-life on my mates computer. Anyway there is a half-life for Linux project out there. I need to get WineX and see for myself.

What do you want to fuck up today?

Has your computer fucked up latly?
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 10:42
TFC kicks fucking ass... i love that. i used to play TFC 24/7 when i was using windows.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 10:50
Could someone maybe make some type of Logo for the CounterStrike page. Maybe something with this (from the couterstrike website):
Take out the guy and put in MES or somethin', maybe even change the font to look like the font in 'fuckMicrosoft' logo?... i suck at manipulating graphics (if only i had a Mac  (http://smile.gif) ).
(http://www.counter-strike.net/pics/main99.gif)

[ July 05, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]

Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 5 July 2002, 11:39
This is all looking cool.
If you website people start making the site i will start trying to get some content for it. eg FAQ, Rules, Member list.

Everybody ewho wants to join mail  [email protected] ([email protected]) and i will start to compile the member list.
Include your name from these forums and and your name on whatever game you play (if it is a different name)

If anybody has any ideas for the Rules drop me a line.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 11:55
hey tux... I am starting the site... please e-mail me any of the FAQ, rules or other content for it at [email protected]

I was also thinking of making some sort of form for people who want to sign up to fill out at the website... maybe something as basic as a guestbook like the Hall of Bobs at www.bobhub.cjb.net (http://www.bobhub.cjb.net)
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 5 July 2002, 12:39
What is the policy on new members going to be...

Shall it just be people from the forum, or what if somebody good in a game says "Cool, How do i join [MES]"

We need to all be true believers in the cause, but we can't be too exclusive.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 12:51
we should let anyone join... but pimp out fuckmicrosoft.com as much as possible to them. They must signup the form thing though, that way they will get an automated e-mail telling them to check out this site.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 22:44
here is what i have so far:
www.mescs.cjb.net (http://www.mescs.cjb.net)
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 5 July 2002, 23:04
I have registered us as the Microsoft Eradication Society [MES] on Barrysworld (http://www.barrysworld.com).
This is (http://www.barrysworld.com/membership/Teams/TeamDetails.asp?team=24397) the link to the team.
I have not opened it for recruiting but email or PM me and i will add you. I will open it for recruiting when the clan is fully formed.

It's coming....
(http://img.barrysworld.com/img/main_bottomSpin.gif)


*Edit start*

//I have not added all the games we play yet
//Because i dont know.
//E-mail or PM me if you want a game to be added.

*Edit end*

[ July 05, 2002: Message edited by: * Tux * ]

Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 5 July 2002, 23:15
we need someone to start a clan server for counterstrike (if someone is gonna start one).
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 5 July 2002, 23:19
I was hoping some kind soul would roll along and offer but they havnt yet.
Hint, hint, somebody......
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 6 July 2002, 00:25
Anybody like this
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Chooco on 6 July 2002, 03:54
LOL @ TUX!

that is too damn funny, can i steal that off you?
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 6 July 2002, 06:14
its already up at www.mescs.cjb.net (http://www.mescs.cjb.net) (goto the about page)
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 6 July 2002, 15:12
Feel free
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 6 July 2002, 16:44
Master of Reality / Bob, i can't connect to http://www.mescs.cjb.net/ (http://www.mescs.cjb.net/)
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 6 July 2002, 18:10
goto http://chatroom.fuckmicrosoft.com:8000/counterstrike/ (http://chatroom.fuckmicrosoft.com:8000/counterstrike/)
then  (http://smile.gif)
I'be gone for a week so if it still doesnt work, its not getting fixed (leaving in a couple seconds.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 6 July 2002, 18:24
I will do the FAQ while you are away then
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 6 July 2002, 19:57
People who join the clan on the main clan site (MOR's) also need to join on barrysworld (see link above)
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 6 July 2002, 22:23
signing up at barry's world is long and complicated, and I'm too lazy.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 6 July 2002, 22:24
Thats Ok I know you've joined
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 6 July 2002, 22:45
I have added you on barry's world
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 9 July 2002, 00:03
http://www.mesclan.tk (http://www.mesclan.tk) has been mapped to the clan site. It is now easier to access the clan site, please join.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Chooco on 9 July 2002, 10:41
yo what's up with that Barry's World place? when i try to download something form that place i never get more than 40kb/s and all the Barry's World servers i see for Half-Life such as TFC, CS, Sven-Coop, DOD, FLF and so on ALWAYS ping over 200. is that Barry's World place on a strained T1 line or something?
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Refalm on 19 December 2002, 01:01
Website is gone...

Clan is gone...

Is [MES] dead?
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 19 December 2002, 01:13
quote:
Originally posted by Refalm:
Website is gone...

Clan is gone...

Is [MES] dead?



Yeah, MoR has culled it...
We will make a return sometime.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Master of Reality on 19 December 2002, 01:39
ya. i cleaned out my server. I did "rm -rf counterstrike/ abyss/ everychat/"
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: shuiend on 19 December 2002, 02:12
Sorry did not get a chance to read the last 2 pages. After christmass sometime when i get some more money i will be happy to run the server for us. As of right now i cant b/c i am on a wireless networkand it does not work that well

[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: wild_jester / BOB ]

Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Refalm on 20 December 2002, 02:04
I played with the name [MES]Refalm at a LAN party today  :D
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: Kintaro on 20 December 2002, 13:09
Screw CS, they will have to release source before i play it again.
Title: Counter Strike
Post by: KernelPanic on 20 December 2002, 20:08
quote:
Originally posted by X11:
Screw CS, they will have to release source before i play it again.


It would be nice but how many decent games in the past 5,6,7 years have done that?