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Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: Great_Satan on 21 September 2003, 20:20
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6951 (http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6951)
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: pofnlice on 21 September 2003, 21:34
Rip, Strangle, Torture, Death, Just like all the others....Thier all Deaddddddddd!!!

Stick it Innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Rip the Skin
Carve and Twist!

Harder Harder!

just a few thoughts on the subject of censorship in any form...also you may find those words in Cannible Corpse's music  :D
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: Great_Satan on 21 September 2003, 22:09
http://www.faithfreedom.org/newspage.php3 (http://www.faithfreedom.org/newspage.php3)

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_19-9-2003_pg7_52 (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_19-9-2003_pg7_52)

Look what this Canadian did:
http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?id=0BAAA62C-1023-48C7-9F3C-0554A9B63EF4 (http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?id=0BAAA62C-1023-48C7-9F3C-0554A9B63EF4)

This one is really bad.  Are we getting close to a nuclear war?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/saudi/story/0,11599,1044402,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/saudi/story/0,11599,1044402,00.html)

One thing people have to know, which obviously a lot of people with short attention spans here don't know, is that Sunni and Shiite Muslims have been fighting and killing each other for hundreds of years.  Saudi Arabia is Wahhabi (Sunni) and Iran is Shiite.  Saddam Hussein's regime was Sunni and most of his victims of genocide are Shiites.  Mass graves are found in Iraq all the time.  Think of the Nazis and Aushwitz and you have an idea of what went on in Iraq.  Only problem now is that the islamofascists are developing nuclear weapons.

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Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: Great_Satan on 21 September 2003, 22:33
An Isreali speaks:
Very important.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6925&start=44 (http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6925&start=44)

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Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: Great_Satan on 21 September 2003, 22:41
If there is nuclear war in the mid east then that means the supply of oil is suddenly cut off from that area.  There will be mass unemployment since there is no gasoline available.  Surplus food can no longer go to the poor, people starve, worldwide economic disaster.
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: TheQuirk on 22 September 2003, 00:02
quote:
Originally posted by Great_Satan:
An Isreali speaks:
Very important.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6925&start=44 (http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6925&start=44)

[ September 21, 2003: Message edited by: Great_Satan ]



Ah, so you listen to Israelis? Well, you're in luck--I'm an Israeli!

Could you please stop with all the "Muslims are a bunch of meanies!" stuff?

As an Israeli, I will appreciate it very much.
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: flap on 22 September 2003, 00:10
Er, the word used is "censure" not "censor". Nothing was 'censored'.
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: Great_Satan on 22 September 2003, 02:51
http://www.taslimanasrin.com/index.html (http://www.taslimanasrin.com/index.html)
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: hm_murdock on 22 September 2003, 20:55
I still just want to know what a Hoosier is
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: jasonlane on 22 September 2003, 22:54
I'm surprised Cahult hasn't said anything about this thread, him being a Swede an all.

Hoosier?..........

Hoosier (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hoosier&r=67)
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: cahult on 23 September 2003, 03:32
Well, the whole concept of "Freedom of speech" was written into the first edition of the swedish laws in the 13th century. We have one of the longest traditions of freedom of speech. That incident with Oprah being edited on TV4 has not much to do with freedom of speech, it
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: flap on 23 September 2003, 03:49
According to that article nothing was censored; the show was censured.
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: cahult on 23 September 2003, 03:53
quote:
Originally posted by flap:
According to that article nothing was censored; the show was censured.


I read about the words in a dictionary right before you wrote this. It was censured, that is right. It makes the link even more hard to understand why this is a blow to swedish freedom of speech.
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: Laukev7 on 23 September 2003, 04:36
quote:
Originally posted by flap:
According to that article nothing was censored; the show was censured.


You mean as in criticise? In French the word for 'censor' is 'censure', so it can be quite confusing.

It could very well be a mistake, though. Or perhaps it's a deliberate attempt to mislead us.

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Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: flap on 23 September 2003, 05:08
Yes, I mean to criticise. The watchdog criticised the tv channel, they didn't censor the show.
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: cahult on 23 September 2003, 05:17
quote:
Originally posted by flap:
Yes, I mean to criticise. The watchdog criticised the tv channel, they didn't censor the show.


OK, Now I understand. This has nothing at all to do with freedom of speech, unless you see the act of not stopping Oprah saying pro-US stuff as a blow against it. In this case, I see it as a way to exercise freedom of choice. They chose to send the program to show us the american side of things. They could have broadcasted another side as well but on another time. That is freedom of choice, not speech.
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: Canadian Lover on 25 September 2003, 05:31
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Look what this Canadian did:
                http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?id=0BAAA62C-1023-48C7-9F3C-0554A9B63EF4 (http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?id=0BAAA62C-1023-48C7-9F3C-0554A9B63EF4)
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So he should be arrested for being mussilan?

The fuck's wrong with you? You praticly hate everyone thast isn't American! With your "I'm proud inisent people died!"
Title: Freedom of speech in Sweden
Post by: hm_murdock on 25 September 2003, 08:56
Hate kills.

It mainly kills people who hate.

Just think of the Nazis. They hated and they LOST.