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Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 01:36
http://www.etherzone.com/2003/shie061703.shtml (http://www.etherzone.com/2003/shie061703.shtml)

So, not only do you Americans pay taxes in double, you also pay for taxes that don't exist. Canada, the land of high taxes, indeed.

[ October 12, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]

Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: TheQuirk on 13 October 2003, 01:45
Oh _big deal_. So now we pay 1/256th the amount of taxes you guys pay.

I don't see how this deserves a thread.

  :rolleyes:    :D    ;)
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 02:02
At least we actually get something in return for what we pay, like a health system available to everyone and low university fees. Unlike you, who pay for nothing but arm dealers and pointless wars.   :rolleyes:
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Pissed_Macman on 13 October 2003, 02:30
I have relatives in Quebec (the family's owned the same farm there since it came from Ireland). They are constantly complaining about taxes and getting ripped off by companies and the government won't do anything about it.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 02:44
quote:
Originally posted by Macman:
I have relatives in Quebec (the family's owned the same farm there since it came from Ireland). They are constantly complaining about taxes and getting ripped off by companies and the government won't do anything about it.


Yes, it's true that we are ripped off as well. For instance, we have to pay for a provincial surtax (TVQ) over goods and sevices already taxed by the federal government (TPS). Right now we are having two of our worst governments (Jean Charest as Quebec PM and Jean Chr
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: cahult on 13 October 2003, 04:41
Alright, you argue over taxes.

The normal tax rate in Sweden is 30 % if you make about 15,000-30,000 kr (1900-3900 US-dollars) a month. If you make twice that a month the normal tax rate is 50 %. Beat that if you can!!!!  ;)
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 04:58
quote:
Originally posted by cahult:
Alright, you argue over taxes.

The normal tax rate in Sweden is 30 % if you make about 15,000-30,000 kr (1900-3900 US-dollars) a month. If you make twice that a month the normal tax rate is 50 %. Beat that if you can!!!!   ;)  



Yeah, but I heard you get all sorts of social benefits paid by the state. I wouldn't mind living in Sweden, actually. Learning Swedish wouldn't be such a long way from German.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Commander on 13 October 2003, 05:59
i wouldn;t mind living in sweden AT ALL!!  i'd go there today if i could!
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Canadian Lover on 13 October 2003, 06:01
quote:
Originally posted by Laukev7:


Yes, it's true that we are ripped off as well. For instance, we have to pay for a provincial surtax (TVQ) over goods and sevices already taxed by the federal government (TPS). Right now we are having two of our worst governments (Jean Charest as Quebec PM and Jean Chr
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 06:02
quote:
he's not as bad a Gorden Cambell


Never heard of him. Who is he?
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Canadian Lover on 13 October 2003, 06:30
He's the Premier of BC. Instead of spend tax dollars on schools/education, he spends it on shit we don't want (e.g fast ferries to Victoria and unnessacery repid transit lines. He also got drunk in Hawaii. Oh! And he hired Jimmy Pattison (the richest guy in Vancouver) to brainwash everone to vote "yes" to the 2010 oylimpics )witch will increse taxes and spend it on shit we don't want!
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Commander on 13 October 2003, 07:42
noone is more stupid then the former premier of ontario......... mike harris  :mad:  u should c what that fagbag did to the healthcare, school system and the hydro!  god bless the voters who voted that faggot out!
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 07:57
OT, but speaking of Canada, what'up with your forum, Canadian Lover? I haven't seen any update since my appointment as a mod. And the HTML source you showed in the other forum appears to be a pro-Canadian website. Are you preparing something?
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Canadian Lover on 13 October 2003, 08:20
Yea, a pro-Canada website with a link to the forum. That is, untill the folks at http://www.illusionfxnet.com (http://www.illusionfxnet.com) get there ass creating my account.

I haven't found any good promoteing tools yet though...
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 08:30
I was in the process of building my own FreeBSD server with Sime's help. He taught me many things, but he must be very busy, as I haven't heard of him in weeks.

Any way I can help with your website? I think a pro-Canadian website is a good idea, especially with USA being under the Bush regime and all.

Promoting tools? Hmm, how about promoting our political system? Perhaps the merits of our social democracy?

[ October 12, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]

Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Pissed_Macman on 13 October 2003, 08:46
I'll bet you can't wait for this site to come: http://www.fuckcanada.com/ (http://www.fuckcanada.com/)

 
quote:
By the way, in what region do your relatives live? Maybe


The original farm is in southern Quebec not far from Ottawa, but McDonalds are everywhere in that area and some of them won't admit that they're related. Unfortunately they are getting old and they may agree to make the farm a golf course pretty soon. >_<

Beautiful country though and unique people, it's like someone air lifted a piece of Ireland to Canada and threw in some French people just to mix things up.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 08:53
In the Outaouais region? Nope, I probably don't know them. I live in the Mont
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Canadian Lover on 13 October 2003, 21:04
Macman, The fuckcanada.com's reason for hating us is "CANADIANS ARE GAY!!!!!" Witch is pretty stupid if you ask me.

Laukev7 Sure, you can help. How experinced are you at html/perl/javascript/php?
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 21:23
I have just finished a thorough, intensive learning process HTML, and I've become good at it! I can do CSS, and write XHTML 1.1 compliant websites. In fact, I am designing my own, and I have a pretty good design (although it was more an experiment than anything, and I don't really know what to put on it). It's not quite finished, as I rewrote it three times: once with the Mozilla editor, then with raw code to make it HTML 4.1 compliant, and the third time to make it xhtml 1.1  compliant (CSS only).

You should view it with Mozilla for now, though, as it uses CSS2, and I didn't have time to check it with every browser yet. Also, the Netfirms banner breaks XHTML compliance, so I'll probably switch to another server (and eventually, my own).

http://laukev7.netfirms.com/ (http://laukev7.netfirms.com/)

Also, I have just started to learn PHP, which I will use to write my own guestbook for starters.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Pissed_Macman on 13 October 2003, 10:59
quote:
Macman, The fuckcanada.com's reason for hating us is "CANADIANS ARE GAY!!!!!" Witch is pretty stupid if you ask me.


Hmmm... well their reasons for hating Canada are certainly original. I've never heard anyone being accused of gay before. There is one flaw though. If all of them are gay, then wouldn't they die off without being able to procreate? Unless each generation is cloned which is very likely. Very interesting. I wonder what kind of genius mastermind came up with this "Gay Canada" theory.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: cahult on 13 October 2003, 17:18
quote:
Originally posted by Laukev7:


Yeah, but I heard you get all sorts of social benefits paid by the state. I wouldn't mind living in Sweden, actually. Learning Swedish wouldn't be such a long way from German.



Yes, a lot of the taxes goes to social benefits but lately the governments have been struck by megalomania. A (lost) bid for the olympics in 2004 was something we taxpayers had to cough up money for, a bridge between southern Sweden and Denmark which they swore we wouldn
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 18:11
Very interesting. Still, corruptness depends on who leads the state, not the country.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: worker201 on 13 October 2003, 20:28
quote:
Originally posted by Laukev7:

You should view it with Mozilla for now, though, as it uses CSS2, and I didn't have time to check it with every browser yet.

http://laukev7.netfirms.com/ (http://laukev7.netfirms.com/)



Uhm, I scoped your page with Mozilla (cuz I was bored) and I coulda swore I saw white text over a white background - on your lefthand navigation.  That's not necessarily a good thing.


And my two cents:
It seems like the American way is to not give a whole lot of money to the government and then complain about how the government doesnt do anything for them.  If you want health care and education and recycling and whatnot, somebody has to pay for it.  But if taxes were increased, it would end up paying for defense anyway.  I suspect that the reason Canada and Sweden are able to provide great services is that neither country has a multi-trillion dollar war machine to feed.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 21:00
quote:
Uhm, I scoped your page with Mozilla (cuz I was bored) and I coulda swore I saw white text over a white background - on your lefthand navigation. That's not necessarily a good thing.


What version of Mozilla do you use? I tested my website with Mozilla 1.4, both in FreeBSD and Windows, as well as Netscape 7.1. The page is supposed to display white text on a black background, as on this picture.

http://ecsyle.com/microsuck/content/website.jpg (http://ecsyle.com/microsuck/content/website.jpg)

Perhaps you customised your page display? This is my first real website, so I want to know as much as possible.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: worker201 on 13 October 2003, 22:19
I used Mozilla 1.6a for windowsXP, and it's a nightly build from like 2 weeks ago.  It looks like your black image with the circleK is displaying really thin, leaving the white crosshatch background visible.

Like so:

http://www.geocities.com/worker201/scrnshot.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/worker201/scrnshot.jpg)


Hope this helps

[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: worker201 ]

Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 13 October 2003, 22:33
Your link is down, Worker201.

But I know what you mean, I had the same display problems when I viewed it in Safari. I'm getting to that, though. I think it's because the 'collapse' attribute is a CSS2 feature not yet implemented in most browsers. Maybe your development version has a compatibility bug? I'm going to have to replace this by a full sidebar background, instead of just affixing a gradient to a black cell.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: Laukev7 on 14 October 2003, 04:26
I have at last solved the problem. It has been giving me a headache for such a long time! It turns out I didn't need the collapse attribute at all; all I had to do was use a division instead of a table. It should work OK in other browsers now. I tested it on Opera, Konqueror, and it even works well in Explorer. I'll try it on Safari at school tomorrow.
Title: For those who call Canada the land of high taxes, part 2.
Post by: xyle_one on 22 October 2003, 23:57
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