Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: www.unixsucks.com on 27 August 2002, 21:31
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http://www.openssh.com/txt/trojan.adv (http://www.openssh.com/txt/trojan.adv)
So, let's see, if Windows has some security problems then you bitch, if any of *NIX programs has security problems, then you do what? Yes, you just hide it, like nothing happened.
I can't beleive it, it's not just that your super secure UNIX machines was hacked, program UNIX people rely on was compromised as well at the same time.
Good example to be given to government bodies about security involving open source. At least if I download from Microsoft I get signed packages first and second I get it from trusted source (I don't know any example when trojan was embedded in Microsoft product).
Now, please what you gonna say?
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I'm gonna say that is old news, was spotted quickly and fixed and the only people who were effected were people who happened to download ssh from those servers for a few day period. People who would have been doing that most certainly would have been advised via CERT and upgraded.
Now, you on the other hand would never have any problems with Windows as mentioned in your own words:
http://mib.teco.edu/plant_archiv/msg06324.html (http://mib.teco.edu/plant_archiv/msg06324.html)
You actually pay for crap like this? And like it?
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lol
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I'm going to say that all software contains security flaws, *nix or windowze software. The response time for proprietry developers and open source developers is what matters. Like konqueror's SSL bug which was fixed in 90 minutes while MS is still looking for a fix, that's what matters .....
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
[(I don't know any example when trojan was embedded in Microsoft product).
Ha ... and you convienently forgot about the trojan horse in MS's VS.NET supplied to some asian (korean? I forgot) developers?
Yep ... no trojans embedded in microsoft products.....
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ya i was thinking about that release... it was asian i know that had iloveu and some other crap HA--- that is a beautiful example of LACK OF ATTENTION TO DETAL
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Wow you found one security flaw! Its funny how windows lovers always make a big deal out of one *nix flaw when there are thousands for their beloved winderz. Besides that what are you doing looking for *nix flaws? Shouldn't you be downloading the latest hotfix from m$?
[ August 27, 2002: Message edited by: trc3 ]
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
http://www.openssh.com/txt/trojan.adv (http://www.openssh.com/txt/trojan.adv)
So, let's see, if Windows has some security problems then you bitch, if any of *NIX programs has security problems, then you do what? Yes, you just hide it, like nothing happened.
I can't beleive it, it's not just that your super secure UNIX machines was hacked, program UNIX people rely on was compromised as well at the same time.
Good example to be given to government bodies about security involving open source. At least if I download from Microsoft I get signed packages first and second I get it from trusted source (I don't know any example when trojan was embedded in Microsoft product).
Now, please what you gonna say?
You dumbass, *nix people don't try to hide problems, they fix them it is microsoft who chooses to hide a problem for a few months, then takes a few more months to finally roll out a fix!
Then when people complain about the security breach and how long it took to fix they can say 'This demonstrates the need for palladium', I say 'Fuck you! and stop being so lazy because you have the money and time to make a secure product so don't use it as an excuse to take my freedom away.
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
Good example to be given to government bodies about security involving open source.
Another good example to give the "goverment bodies" is all the security flaws involving M$ products, the thousands apon thousands of virus's, trojans, worms, buffer overflows ect. ect. ect... Then let them choose witch they want, without a m$ lawyer or slick corporate asshole there to pressure them. Again I say, WOW! you found one hole in *nix, now lets see how many holes you can find in the swiss cheese that is winderz.
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He didn't even find a hole in *NIX. He found where someone planted a trojan in the SSH development source that was only exposed for a few days. It was never widely distributed in any distro. Would have only effected those that downloaded the latest development source and compiled it themselves. And like I said, those sort of people surely would have been advised and fixed the hole. Wouldn't have effected "John Doe" in the least.
That's pretty weak if that's the only dirt he can dig up. Shit, there's MUCH worse than that, although still not anything close to the security issues in any Windows OS.
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Well I get a lot of saliva dipping from your *NIX mouthes again. I never said that Windows is secure if you don't know what you are doing (like disabling services etc), what I told that Windows can be as secure as any UNIXes. I accidentaly found that link becouse wanted to see if updates can be downloaded from RedHat directly for sshd or from source.
Now, please use more of words "fuck", "moron", etc which you "reasonable and not biased" people usually have in your vocabularily, it's really show levels of desperation when you run out of arguments.
Now, last question again, what would be installed on default installation of RedHat if user just clicks through the whole process.
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
Now, last question again, what would be installed on default installation of RedHat if user just clicks through the whole process.
Why dont you download and install redhat to find out?
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I don't have spare machine if I would have one I would do it.
Now, without installing OS, is it possible to get an answer?
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
Now, please use more of words "fuck", "moron", etc which you "reasonable and not biased" people usually have in your vocabularily, it's really show levels of desperation when you run out of arguments.
*counts number of times he used the words 'fuck' or 'moron' in his posts in this thread*
hmmm ... I can't actually seem to find any....
I just thought of a saying actually ... it went something like:
if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen....
Now I'm going to degrade myself and use the F word:
What the fuck are you doing here? If all you can do is point out our low level of intelligence (something you clearly am guilty of yourself) yet offer no real response with content as to the replies you receive then please, do us all (and yourself a favour) and get the fuck out of here....
oh btw ... the only time the word fuck was used in this thread was by Tux and was not aimed directly at you, noone even uttered the word moron.... please ... just go away if you have no constructive contribution to these forums.....
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Why not partition your drive, it would only take around 1.5 gigs for a full installation, you could get it into a much smaller space if you wanted though. Why not, it wont hurt anything.
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So you are able to bash *nix, but you aren't willing to try it.
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I don't want to into discussion of me trying UNIX again, we have gone through it before in previous threads.
I have my primary partition formatted as NTFS, I don't have Partition Magic so I don't see how can I accomplish that (having dual boot).
Now, third time is it so diffucult to give me an answer instead of answering a question with a qustion:
What daemons are installed by default by Red Hat Installation.
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
I don't have Partition Magic so I don't see how can I accomplish that (having dual boot).
Umm its easy, make a fat32 parition, witch you can do in winderz xp, you dont need partition magic. Then slip in the linux cd, when it comes up witch partition to use pick the one you just formatted as fat32, it will convert it to ext2 or ext3, then continue with install. Pretty simple, then configure lilo or grub, then you have a dual boot. What are you scared?
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I already have Windows installed on my machine and it's on NTFS partition, I'm talking about new installation. So how can I accomplish that without rearranging drives, wiping out my Windows installation etc.
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If its just one partition then I guess you cant, but if you have more then one, back one up, then install. You could get it done without much effort, I think your just scared.
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Why I would be scared. I have installed Linux a couple of times before as well as Solaris.
There is one thing which completely turned me off about Linux GUI is that mouse was jumpy. It's exactly like that on Solaris is well.
Is it common disease for XWindows?
And please, somebody who would try to insult me now for using mouse in UNIX, please just don't reply.
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Heh heh, mouse is jumpy... It's more like his hand is jumpy because he is satan being touched by holy water.
Now moron (there I said it does it make you happy?), you didn't ask for the list in this thread, it was in another thread and I answered your "fucking" question "ass hole". And you claim to be making so much "fucking" money you can't afford another "fucking" computer? What a "fucking" "loser". Get lost you "bone head". There, how many was that?
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It was not answered you face fuck.
You peed on yourself this time really. I expected more sense from "most reputable" person in this group.
Fuck you and all your fucking *NIX lover friends.
I'm off this newsgroup as I can see that people just dumber and less reasonable then I expected.
I knew that I can not question your religion but you just idolizing things and shrug off everything which does not fall into places.
P.S.
One more, time "FUCK YOU". Bearing in mind how many times I have been cursed on before I'm entitles as many "FUCKS" as I want.
And I have enough money to buy another computer if I want, I already have 5 at home (all running Windows) but I'd really think next time if I would decide to install Linux becouse of dumb fucks like you standing behind it.
And I'm not going to read this message board anymore so you can start now your public masturbation.
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
Why I would be scared. I have installed Linux a couple of times before as well as Solaris.
There is one thing which completely turned me off about Linux GUI is that mouse was jumpy. It's exactly like that on Solaris is well.
Is it common disease for XWindows?
And please, somebody who would try to insult me now for using mouse in UNIX, please just don't reply.
Gregory (I CAN call you Gregory, can't I?) I use a mouse (trackball) in Midnight Commander all the time; mice ARE supported in Linux/UNIX. Also, even though my trackball isn't SPECIFICALLY supported, I, an uneducated computer wannabe, was able to configure it in Xwindow with little problem. You might want to review your configuration before blaming he Operating System.
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Unixsux, there is a simple explanation for why no one bitches. Unix problems are fixed quick enough that 1)Often when you hear them, they are old news. 2)They are fixed so quick that word doesn't have time to spread. 3)Taking 1 and 2 into account, the Unix followers are very impressed with this and don't feel the need to bitch.
I've heard this many times at MSE, Unix problems are fixed VERY quickly.
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
It was not answered you face fuck.
You peed on yourself this time really. I expected more sense from "most reputable" person in this group.
Fuck you and all your fucking *NIX lover friends.
I'm off this newsgroup as I can see that people just dumber and less reasonable then I expected.
I knew that I can not question your religion but you just idolizing things and shrug off everything which does not fall into places.
P.S.
One more, time "FUCK YOU". Bearing in mind how many times I have been cursed on before I'm entitles as many "FUCKS" as I want.
And I have enough money to buy another computer if I want, I already have 5 at home (all running Windows) but I'd really think next time if I would decide to install Linux becouse of dumb fucks like you standing behind it.
And I'm not going to read this message board anymore so you can start now your public masturbation.
YEAH!!!!!! Can anyone not read this? It's locked in time. Hell, I might even stick it in my tag line. We'll see if he really means it "this" time. I somehow feel he'll be back.
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just to do unixsucks a favour (seeing he avoids answering any of my posts anyway)
FUCK!
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
http://www.openssh.com/txt/trojan.adv (http://www.openssh.com/txt/trojan.adv)
So, let's see, if Windows has some security problems then you bitch, if any of *NIX programs has security problems, then you do what? Yes, you just hide it, like nothing happened.
I can't beleive it, it's not just that your super secure UNIX machines was hacked, program UNIX people rely on was compromised as well at the same time.
Good example to be given to government bodies about security involving open source. At least if I download from Microsoft I get signed packages first and second I get it from trusted source (I don't know any example when trojan was embedded in Microsoft product).
Now, please what you gonna say?
for being in your 30's, you really don't act it. and if you knew anything about UN*X developers; you should know they take security in a very serious way, and they spit out a patch ASAP.
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important to note: none of those yes-yes-yesses are a license agreement containing "we can delete anything or add anything to your computer any time we want, and you can't know about it, let alone do a damned thing about it, because we are watching you"
it certainly doesnt install a secret operating system, built around its flawed web browser so to eliminate competition.
it doesn't install bill gates dirty little fingers into your wallet.
it does install x-bill
if your mouse didn't work you did not try linux
your jumpy mouse cursor is because you have a mouse that was designed fundamentally for windows, i had one of those (made in ethiopia)... or there is crap in the optical cogs inside. curiously, a microsoft mouse will operate fine under linux (???!).
oh, and you truly are a fucking moron
ha
and you just didn't know how to create a partition for linux, and you are afraid to install newer linux distros because you're afraid you'd fall in love.
[ August 27, 2002: Message edited by: sporkme / bob ]
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dude, my 266 mhz laptop which is currently enslaved to windows mistaken edition, is unresponsive, useless, and pisses me off, first the mouse lags really bad, then it crashes, and doesn't un hibernate like linux did on it, the only thing taht windows has giong for it is sound support, but im not sure if FreeBSD supports the sound, now, with my 60mhz pentium/*a dell*/ with it running debian 2.6 it is very responsive, still useful and does work for me. now as soon as OpenOffice.org is avialable for FreeBSD, ill run it instead. now for stuff like cameras. come one, gphoto2 has a great interface, and works better then kodaks software. and for kde's ssl bug, ummmm, i can actally use the patched verison, why, cuase i installed kde 3.0.3, now suprisingly, my microsoft optical mouse works better under linux then under windows. first i don't have to FUCK WITH DRIVERS, it works damnit, and, i bet windows will never run on my box as fast as ChoasNETOS can. every one in hear who knows about it, let this idiot figure out why ChoasNETOS smokes windows performance wise?
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
Fuck you and all your fucking *NIX lover friends.
hahaha... Does anyone find this as funny as I do? I couldnt stop laughing at this guy.
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it is funny, but really it is sad
saaaaaad. he seems to think we actually care, i am right and all of you are right... he is a fuck (ing) moron
of course, we are all always right
unixsux.com, this is all great, but you are wrong
take your smirnoff ice and piss off to the fiberglass shithouse