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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: TU on 14 August 2002, 21:04

Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: TU on 14 August 2002, 21:04
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/14/136244 (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/14/136244)
yay
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: slave on 14 August 2002, 23:13
DOS????

Give me a break!

I for one will be using Palladium in the future.
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: Master of Reality on 14 August 2002, 23:33
quote:
An anonymous reader submits: "As a follow-up to the Slashdot story Dell No Longer Selling Systems w/o Microsoft OS, News.com is reporting that  Dell will sell systems without Windows. Microsoft's new licensing terms stipulate they can't sell PC's without an OS (hence the removal of the NoOS option), so Dell will be offering FreeDOS as an option for some computers. It will come with the computer, but not installed, so that users may install any other OS that they wish. It's a very creative interpretation of Microsoft's licensing terms, and one I imagine Microsoft didn't have in mind."

ya, fuck microsoft!
That'll learn 'em
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: pkd_lives on 14 August 2002, 23:38
It's a shame they only want to sell in quantity and to the business sector.
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: Master of Reality on 14 August 2002, 23:46
just go out and by yerself a walmart PC  (http://smile.gif)
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: Calum on 15 August 2002, 01:13
quote:
Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
DOS????

Give me a break!

I for one will be using Palladium in the future.



arm or a leg, you deliberate point misser?   (http://smile.gif)
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: choasforages on 15 August 2002, 03:58
geee, people like you


we don't we cut his tongue off, break his eardrums, and gouge his eyes out, there, pallidium a few years before its officaly realesd. and while were at it, chop his dick off, cuase somebody must have a patant on orgasms and on masterbation
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: Chooco on 15 August 2002, 12:51
if you support palladium, you must be a communist.

palladium basically calls for Microsoft to be not compatible with other Operating systems. it's sort of like the thing of 1 leader, 1 company to control it all.
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: slave on 15 August 2002, 21:54
quote:
 if you support palladium, you must be a communist.


A russian communist maybe, but real communism isn't like that at all; it's more like LINUX.

You socialist linux heads can all work for red hat and give our enemy china open source technology for all I care.

Microsoft is more like a facist than a communist company.  There is a difference.  Microsoft isn't communist because it is goverened and developed by an elite few instead of by the people. (And I like it that way; most people are idiots and need microsoft's software to use a computer)
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: Master of Reality on 15 August 2002, 22:01
ya, microsoft isnt communist at all (real communism, that is). Communism is supposed to be about all the people as one community sharing the wealth and ehlping eachother. All contributing to the way the country runs. Linux is communist(not the government type of communist) but the communism that is the idea of a community together that shares and helps eachother.

[ August 15, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]

Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: slave on 15 August 2002, 22:14
Besides all these anti-capitalist, anti-intellectual property ideas that come out of the GNU project are a clear attempt to destroy the American way of doing things.

Just read the "GNU Manifesto" and you can rename it to the "Comminist Manifesto" and there would be little difference.  Stallman basically calls for the  end to all owership of intellectual property, and thinks closed source is "damaging to our country's civic spirit."  Well capitalism doesn't work that way; it's about greed, not need.  The desire for the dollar drives this economy; that's why it costs 18 bucks for a cd that cost fifty cents to manufacture.  That's why we need the DMCA so people won't go ripping off Metallica and Warner Bros.  It's all about profit.  When everyone is greedy, everyone prospers.  RMS says "Everyone should have free software," well you take this idea of "helping the less fortunate" to its logical conclusion and you end up embracing communism.  I for one do not want to see this happening in our country.  I like it how our country rewards rock stars and paula jones with millions of dollars but pays scientists and teachers shit for salary, er wait nevermind.  The point is snoop dogg is entertaining and he deserves his gold chains and beotches.  He also deserves your money, so go worship him on MTV and buy his cd's, peeps.  Or he'll bust a cap in yo' ass, bitch!
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: Master of Reality on 15 August 2002, 22:58
well... that was the stupidest thing i've heard in a long time.
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: AlexMax on 16 August 2002, 00:11
quote:
Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Besides all these anti-capitalist, anti-intellectual property ideas that come out of the GNU project are a clear attempt to destroy the American way of doing things.


XP I want you to answer my question directly.  Where the fuck do you get that defenition?  America was founded on the principle that we were sick and tired of the British rulers tightening their reigns on us and telling us what we can and can not do.

Wait a second, I just created an involuntary analogy.  See if you can figure it out...

XP, you do have a point about FreeDOS.  However, you also don't see Dell's intentions.  Microshit will not allow Dell to sell OS-less computers.  And just think about all the technical support hassles that Dell would have to go through if it bundled Linux.  What they are doing is packaging a rinky-dink OS (FreeDOS) that doesn't cost a dman thing, but still counts as an OS.  They know that people will purchase a FreeDOS machine, throw the FreeDOS CD away, and install Linux.  Everyone ends up happy.  Dell doesn't have to provide Tech Support.  Linux users get what they want.  The only loser here is Microsoft, because Dell found a loophole in their agreement.  And there isn't a damn thing M$ can do about it, since if they tightened up their agreement further, it would get the DoJ back on them.

That Michal Dell is one crafty person he...

[ August 15, 2002: Message edited by: AlexMax ]

Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: choasforages on 16 August 2002, 02:23
well, i don't like the way our government is run anyway, besides, karl marx didn't call for oppression in the first place

POWER CORRUPTS, ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTLY.

in russia, the leader was given too much power, therefore it wasn't cummunism, it was a dictatorship.
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: RudeCat7 on 29 August 2002, 06:20
It's just too f**king funny!

Check out linuxsucks.com and you will see that it's flooded with post from people that think Linux is great! How's that for a backfire?!

[ August 28, 2002: Message edited by: RudeCat7 ]

Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: sporkme on 30 August 2002, 02:43
XP, i will never understand... where did your parents go wrong?  you really believe all of that drivel?

the US is about working together... in your image we would be like crabs in a bucket (woosh! -it goes over his head)

linux is not a political standpoint, a state of being, a philosophical standpoint, or any other of the things it is often fun to profess it to be.

linux is an operating system, no more, no less.

linux looks like more than that in contrast to:

windows has become more than an os.  windows has become a symbol for a much larger and serious underlying problem.  microsoft seeks market domination... rather further domination... and that stifles creativity, inflates prices, eliminates free competition (part of the american dream), and -as we have all seen- degrades quality production.

your mindless support for this abomination leads me to believe that you are just trolling, that you know that palladium-tcpa is wrong, and that you simply get off on making yourself look stupid.

more importantly... if i am wrong about that...you are not communist, socialist, despotist or any other political allignment.  you are a greedy money-glutton at heart; the cold blood in your veins clearly is not human.  you're a reptile, part of the worldwide societal deevolution.  your moral compass has permanently been demagnatized, and your thought processes are all screwed up.

do humanity a favor (choose one):  offer yourself up for scientific experimentation, kill yourself, or go join your worldcom/enron buddies in jail... they will agree with you for sure.  maybe al quiada could use a good mind like yours.

dont have kids

you scum-sucking zombie dog of a whore-monger, suck the shit out of my asshole.

[ August 29, 2002: Message edited by: sporkme / bob ]

Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: KernelPanic on 30 August 2002, 02:48
XP Luser, do you vote labour?
*Nothing against them, just asking*
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: sporkme on 31 August 2002, 15:38
and you can order dells with freedos today if you talk to some special dude.  i called twice.
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: Bazoukas on 31 August 2002, 23:14
I dont know why am replying..maybe cause i dont have anything better to do now.


 XP Microsoft is like Stalinism believe it or not.
 Think about it.
 They give you what THEY want you to give.
 They decide for you what you want.
 They dont give you a say on what you want.
 They treat everybody like criminals spying on them.
 Any form of democracy is eliminated.
 Power is concetrated to few people.

   Linux because of its open source policy can be viewed communism to its pure form (Again dont confuse Communism with Stalinism).

  Dont have any doubt that if RedHat, Suse, Mandrake, Debian or wich ever big Linux company tries to pull shit like MS does, will survive for long. The linux community will bring them down before your spit will hit the ground.
  Why? Because people have a say on matters. Unlike with MS were they push in your throat what ever they want, with out asking you.
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: sporkme on 2 September 2002, 13:33
communism works without central control

greed turns communism into stalinism

the same is beginning to apply to capitalism

and capitalism IS NOT the foundation of the united states or any other democratic government... capitalism is simply the operating system

(shameless metaphor)

DEMOCRACY is the foundation, and without corruption of central government and squabbling, people like you would not exist, XPhozer
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: Doctor V on 3 September 2002, 21:25
XP Loser...what the fuck kind of person are you.  I bet your not for real, and you just make these stupid posts to draw attantion to yourself.  Someone would have to be really really stupid to make a post like that.

On to politics.  Billy G says that if your against M$ then you hate capitalism, open source is un-American and all that hoop-blah.  This could be no farther from the truth.  I think that anyone who supports M$ hates capitalism.  One of the driving forces behind capitalism is competition.  Comapnys will compete to make the best product to sell.  This pushes out superior products and also drives the cost down, as the companys are also trying to sell them at the lowest price possible.  When a monopoly comes into play, all benefits to capatalism are flshed down the toilet.  Innovation slows, and prices skyrocket.  This is exactly what is happening in the software industry today, and its all M$'s fault.  Also what we see is that products are not being made in ways that the consumers want, but how the monopolist, and its partners want.  As for 20 dollar CDs?  It is not the result of a monopoly, but collusion.  When several large companys agree to stop competeing with eachother for mutual benefit, the same problems arise.

So the way I see it, if you truely love capatilism then you probably hate Microsoft.  So both socalists and capitalists fundamentally are against M$.  The only political group that M$ could possibly benefit would be the fascists.  XP Loser, you along with BillGates, Pigasaurus Rosen, and other pro M$ jerks, are fascists.  And M$ is certainly very un-American (though admittedly it seems USA is becomming more and more fascist every day with DCMA and such laws being passed).

V
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: sporkme on 3 September 2002, 22:08
right on dr. v

america is not becoming facist tho ...the liberals had been in charge for 8 years, and we are going to be sorting this out for a while.
Title: Dell with freedos!
Post by: TheQuirk on 4 September 2002, 07:44
...And XP user messes up another thread!

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: TheQuirk ]