Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: cahult on 27 August 2003, 22:57
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[ August 28, 2003: Message edited by: suselinux ]
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rkmaster, you seem to think that living in software communism with microsoft is a good thing. But yet microsoft can't seem to produce a operating system with out fatal vulnerabilities that get exploited by malicous code.
You seem to have a poor understanding of linux. Your mistaking linux's biggest advantages for disadvantages. Its because Linux is open source that people have made many different flavors to fit their own needs.
Thats why more servers and IBM supercomputers run Linux than windows. Because nobody is relying on 1 huge corporation to make an operating system that will support a 512 cpu supercomputer cluster. They just simply take linux and a room full of software engineers and do what ever they damb please. And you know what ? Apparently that method works pretty damb well.
In a larger sense, linux isn't a whole lot different from mac os or any other unix based os. So why do you hate it so much ? You just think were insane because we like the freedom of choice in our operating system. You seem to think that having fewer choices is good because the fewer choices the bigger the company and the bigger the company the better the software.
I THINK NOT
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quote:
Originally posted by rkmaster24:
Yes, Linux is very dumb software for dumb people.
... bla bla bla ...
Barkto has found something to do with the time that he used to waste in Netscape groups.
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i seriously doubt if anybody actually read that.
hands up anybody who did?
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Read Wot?
Hey Calum it claims to know all about Windows but dosen't understand MS$ ...
U:\>net share
Share name Resource Remark
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IPC$ Remote IPC
C$ C:\ Default share
D$ D:\ Default share
ADMIN$ C:\WINNT Remote Admin
The command completed successfully.
Way beyond our help
Sime
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Its like i probably said a hundred times before about rkmaster. He has no understanding of unix based operating systems. He has no clue that there are dozens of unix based operating systems like linux that may not be the best for home use but are excellent for servers and supercomputers. Another problem with this guy is that he can only understand his own needs. And all of his needs are met by windows. He can't understand that many people need secure internet more than excellent gaming.
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quote:
Originally posted by sime:
Read Wot?
i meant the rant following "windows xp is the best, linux sucks" or whatever it was he said
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Hey Calum it claims to know all about Windows but dosen't understand MS$ ...
now i feel dumb because i don't understand what you said :(
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Hi Calum,
if you think MS$ is bad when running on a PC at home with a connection to the net then you really need to build a full blown network to see it really mess up!
If you open a DOS box and type net and hit return you will be given a load of help info similar to the way you could type rm --help
If you look at the options available and type say
net use /? you will be presented with information specific to the command you are interested in.
(Admins like myself tend to use CLI's regardless of the OS as it is quicker than messing about with a GUI)
These commands go all the way back to Lanmanager and Lanserver (IBM aka Big Blue who despite what the Troll thinks were actually responsible for major parts of Windows as at the time MS$ and IBM were friendly) hence there was and still is a huge similarity between the core of OS/2 and Windows.
These commands allow you to basically control networking on a given box. There is however a command missing from the list that $MS removed .. net admin which allowed you to mount remote machines and administer them.
Enough history.
The command net share displays the drives on your system that are shared. There are default shares automatically available namely C$, D$ IPC$ (Inter Process Communication) other driveletter$ shares if the drives exist and finally there is admin$ which generally point to c:\winnt.
Now normal users share their drives using the GUI to do the job. Admins tend to open a DOS box and type for example...
net share (no params) you get all current shares on the box ...
U:\>net share
Share name Resource Remark
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IPC$ Remote IPC
C$ C:\ Default share
D$ D:\ Default share
ADMIN$ C:\WINNT Remote Admin
The command completed successfully.
OK cool those are shared on the box (notice all shares end in a $)
Lets share the tmp directory we will do that by mounting it on the z$ drive (see the limitation only 26 mount points max)
U:\>net share z$=c:\tmp /remark:"calum share"
z$ was shared successfully.
Cool
Let's view it
U:\>net share
Share name Resource Remark
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IPC$ Remote IPC
C$ C:\ Default share
D$ D:\ Default share
z$ c:\tmp calum share
ADMIN$ C:\WINNT Remote Admin
The command completed successfully.
Et voila!
OK so you shared your drives and you think to yourself I need to use the C$ share on 192.168.35.19 no problem,
enter stage left net use...
U:\>net use
New connections will be remembered.
Status Local Remote Network
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OK I: \\192.168.35.17\d$ Microsoft Windows Network
OK J: \\192.168.35.21\d$ Microsoft Windows Network
OK K: \\192.168.35.26\c$ Microsoft Windows Network
The command completed successfully.
Now lets mount a new drive on a remote machine
U:\>net use \\192.168.35.17 c$
The command completed successfully.
Now lets view it
U:\>net use
New connections will be remembered.
Status Local Remote Network
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OK I: \\192.168.35.17\d$ Microsoft Windows Network
OK J: \\192.168.35.21\d$ Microsoft Windows Network
OK K: \\192.168.35.26\c$ Microsoft Windows Network
OK L: \\192.168.35.17\c$ Microsoft Windows Network
The command completed successfully.
So there ya go useful for admins, very quick, limited allows you to script (not like Unix) Loads of other commands
Limited abilities compared to Unix / Linux - Utilizes SMB which is a transport layer protocol (Layer 4) so it is NOT routable - Fast on a LAN. Shares are always referenced with a $ at the end except one special share .....
gates$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :)
Hence MS$
Sorry for the confusion :D
Later
Sime
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Ah the old shares trick. And believe it or not it always works. Its great if your sitting at a cable modem and and to leach off your naighbours much bigger hard drive.
:D
As for networking with windows, I just lost a VNC (virtual network console) without it being up 5min :(
Oh well guess I get a free coffie table! :D
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Yeh,
them free coffee tables from Mickeysoft, rickity as hell... and have you seen the EULA
;)
Sime