Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: Refalm on 1 February 2003, 23:08
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The company loses money on each Xbox it sells, with some analysts pegging the shortfall at more than $100 per $199 console, meaning that strong sales for the platform actually increase its losses.
Read more (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=2151191)...
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Problem is, if Microsoft lost 50 billon dollars like AOL, they would still be able to survive a few more 50B hits before becoming a shadow of it's former self. Ok maybe not, I don't know how much networth MS has, im just saying that they can easily afford to lose $150 per X-box. :(
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Someone please explain to me the laws of economics. Why can you sell an item which is profitable yet you lose money doing so? There is something rotten here... :D :confused: :rolleyes: (http://redface.gif)
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Originally posted by cahult:
Someone please explain to me the laws of economics. Why can you sell an item which is profitable yet you lose money doing so? There is something rotten here... :D :confused: :rolleyes: (http://redface.gif)
easy, they're selling it for less then what it costs to make it.
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Doesn't that run afoul of some anti-trust laws(again)? Selling something at a loss to (attempt to) crush competition?
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It is typical practice in the video game industry to sell hardware for little or no profit due to the fact that they make the majority of thier money off the software.
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The thing is that Sony sells its video game system at a loss as well, but they make a lot more money than MS because they have a lot more high quality games.
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one of the issues that MS is facing is the fact that the hardware in they're system costs significantly more then what they are selling for, and video game makers couldn't possibly hope to create a game that utilizes that hardware.
that and they don't have any major video game makers backing them that they didn't buy. they have no support from capcom (except steel battalion, which has since been discontinued), no support from square/enix (except the final fantasy game that has since been cancelled).
they haven't had a big hit exclusive to the system ever! what about halo you say? it will be making it's way to pc in june. and splinter cell? come march 25 it will have come out for every other system. so microsoft isn't even making up for the lost money of console sales with software.
i have turn so many people away from the xbox, i've lost count (i work at a video game store, by the way). all opinions of microsoft aside, the xbox is the crappiest console i've ever seen. the nintendo 64 had better game support then the xbox.
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Hence, MS interest in Rare and Blizzard.
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three words
panzer dragoon orta.
There's a new exlusive title for ya, plus its made by sega. oh and they already have a sequel to panzer dragoon saga in the works.
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Everybody should go out and buy an xboy then- hopefully that would make M$ bankrupt ;)
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Originally posted by cloudstrife:
three words
panzer dragoon orta.
There's a new exlusive title for ya, plus its made by sega. oh and they already have a sequel to panzer dragoon saga in the works.
while i'm not going to despute the fact that panzer dragoon orta is cool game (so is jet set radio future, and shenmue II), it certainly isn't the big hit the system needs.
sega is one of my favorite developers, so to see them working so close with MS makes me want to puke. MS is talking about trying to buy sega, and that makes me want to cry.
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Originally posted by Tattooed:
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Everybody should go out and buy an xboy then- hopefully that would make M$ bankrupt ;)
If 13.3 million XBoxes were bought in 1 financial quarter, M$ would be posting a net loss (it's first in god only knows how long). Not a bad idea!
I used 2 bil divided by $150 loss per console = 13.3 million.
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Originally posted by distortion:
MS is talking about trying to buy sega, and that makes me want to cry.
me too.
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I think M$ is starting another FUD shitstorm. Don't you people see the telltale signs? They are talking about buying Blizzard, Valve, and now Sega. Typical FUD pattern to try to clean out the gaming market for themselves.
My advice: Don't believe anything until it happens. When M$ buys Sega, then be afraid.
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personally, i kinda doubt that sega would allow themselves to be bought by an american company. not to mention the fact that they have numorous projects in the works for other companies (like making f-zero for nintendo).
sega will likely take the same path that square did when MS tried to buy them and cut all ties with them.it's just that this has the possiblility of happening.
for those of you who don't know the humorous story of when microsoft tried to buy square, it went kinda like this. square was reluctant, but ultimately agreed to make a final fantasy game for the xbox. eventually, microsoft went to square and said "here is how you're going to be making games from now on..." and square (quite literally) threw the xbox representives out of the building. a little while later, MS tried to buy square, but they refused.
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all the remotely good sega titles seem to be for xbox. I'm already scared.
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To distortion , dude you most come to new york and fight with me , because i have bunch moron is lost in microsoft brainwash . i had major discussing with my cousin and some dude at store name game express ever heard of it ? no ok , anyways i told them microsoft is a piece of shit company and trying to rule console but they can't because ps2 is the man at that , no they say "i don't give fuck about microsoft what are you stock broke some shit ?" , i told them if you ever use windows ? and they said yes well did you ever get blue screen of death "what is that ?" the blue screen the scare shit of you and make you feel the you broke someone computer "oh that one" . well so he said "what does have to do with xbox ?" well because xbox is piece of shit just like windows , oh man this were the flaming start it they disgress with like crazy . " oh xbox is way better then ps2 the graphic so cool and shaper so on", so why isn't microsoft xbox controlling consoling world ? and he said "because people are stupid and they don't want they missing " right ? well i just hook up a geforce 4 and pentium 4 2.0 ghz and 256mb ddr etc.. i would problably could get sharp graphic just like xbox .. "well pc is different from xbox" i told look cousin but i love you but you're a fucking moron, that's reason microsoft is going to keep liening to people and become richer because brainwash people are so dumb to see what is realling happing behind microsoft doors.. he said "whatever dude , i know have good shit fuck ps2 " .... poor minds sorry for the long ass story and excuse the bad grammer if i spell it right
tell me what think of my poor idiot cousin. and if you can please provide better defination why xbox sucks so i could show it to this guy
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Lack of 3rd party support and not many amazing games.
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Originally posted by mc0282:
To distortion , dude you most come to new york and fight with me , because i have bunch moron is lost in microsoft brainwash . i had major discussing with my cousin and some dude at store name game express ever heard of it ? no ok , anyways i told them microsoft is a piece of shit company and trying to rule console but they can't because ps2 is the man at that , no they say "i don't give fuck about microsoft what are you stock broke some shit ?" , i told them if you ever use windows ? and they said yes well did you ever get blue screen of death "what is that ?" the blue screen the scare shit of you and make you feel the you broke someone computer "oh that one" . well so he said "what does have to do with xbox ?" well because xbox is piece of shit just like windows , oh man this were the flaming start it they disgress with like crazy . " oh xbox is way better then ps2 the graphic so cool and shaper so on", so why isn't microsoft xbox controlling consoling world ? and he said "because people are stupid and they don't want they missing " right ? well i just hook up a geforce 4 and pentium 4 2.0 ghz and 256mb ddr etc.. i would problably could get sharp graphic just like xbox .. "well pc is different from xbox" i told look cousin but i love you but you're a fucking moron, that's reason microsoft is going to keep liening to people and become richer because brainwash people are so dumb to see what is realling happing behind microsoft doors.. he said "whatever dude , i know have good shit fuck ps2 " .... poor minds sorry for the long ass story and excuse the bad grammer if i spell it right
tell me what think of my poor idiot cousin. and if you can please provide better defination why xbox sucks so i could show it to this guy
the besy way to convince someone of something is to ask them questions. for example, ask him to name 5 good games exclusive to the system. or ask him to name as many good exclusive games as he can, then just list off larger titles for ps2.
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i highly doubt sega will not allow ms to buy them but if they do i will revoke everything i have ever said about sega. (i love sega and wish they wouldve continued making consoles)
everyone waste their money on xboxes!! if we all get two it will happen twice as fast!!
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how about we all buy one. then right before the store return warranty runs out we all take them back. m$ would see a gain in initial loss. then whenn best buy gets a few thousand units showed up its ass it might not want to carry it at all. also tell them you simply plugged it in and it didnt work. if there was a way to break it without voiding the return policy then the store would send it back and m$ would lose twice