Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: jasonlane on 31 July 2003, 15:42
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So M$ now finds itself in a position were they have doggly held onto the assumption that there way is best, there products are superior. Yet large chuncks of the community has seen through their lies and so open source and *nixes has and is experiancing wide adoption. Hmmm what to do:
M$ SWAT TEAM (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10791)
Apparently though "Total Cost of Ownership" is still better with the Vole and M$ is "better at fixing bugs". Going to show us how it's done eh? My god what sort of logic are they using???
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I can understand why they're faster at correcting bugs. They've had much more practice.
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There, look! They've said they're better, so they must be. Who wouldn't trust a somebody talking about their biggest rivals that they are desperately trying to destroy?
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it would be a "smart" move if M$ was to install linux but i know a guy that programs VB.NET and says that M$ only runs server 2003!
so i dont know, also i wouldnt think that bill gates would want to see how bad his products are compared to a mainstream *nix distro
[ August 01, 2003: Message edited by: raptor ]
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VB is crap and anything with .NET after it is doubleplusbad.
Anyway M$ is not quicker at fixing bugs, there sloooowwww. the patches they do issue usually make things worse.
[ August 01, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
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Doubleplusungood, Zardoz. Get it right.
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I can call it doubleplusbad if I want to. You going to stop me? :D
You are technically right though, sorry. I should hang my head in shame....I'm retiring to a darkened room to think good 'n hard about the error of my ways :(
My only excuse being that it was 3:00 A.M
Doubleplussorry
[ August 02, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
[ August 02, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
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it would be a "smart" move if M$ was to install linux but i know a guy that programs VB.NET and says that M$ only runs server 2003!
Actually I think they run some BSD boxes in "mission critical" areas. And there was an article a while back about them training some dudes on Unix so that they could fight us. (None of them dropped by my house so far...)
Re:newspeak. You can get a filter to do that. apt-get install filters i think if you have apt-get installed, otherwise you Mac guys are just gunna have to find your own version.
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yup we MAC guys have apt-get, yipe!
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And it looks like Apple is actually going to support it...
http://forums.appleinsider.com/images/panther/portsmanager1.png (http://forums.appleinsider.com/images/panther/portsmanager1.png)
Not apt-get, but it's still good to see.
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Anyway M$ is not quicker at fixing bugs, there sloooowwww. the patches they do issue usually make things worse.
like SP1
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MS is better at fixing bugs....
Wasn't this the company that also advertised that their software would make hackers extinct?
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The Advertising Standards Commission made them pull that Ad here in the UK, becuse is was untruthful and misleading.
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I'm also reminded of the fact that it wasn't too long ago that MS was blaming security problems on the people who found and reported them without giving MS 3 months to fix them.
Now suddenly they are the best at fixing bugs.
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Claims by Microsoft advocates:
"People hate M$ because they have so much money."
"All software has bugs."
"Most viruses are written for M$ because it is so popular."
With all that money they can't seem to make their products bug-free and secure, yet open-source developers with little or no money are able to discover and patch bugs in their spare time.
I've never even heard of a *nix or Mac virus, do they even exist? (virus being a self-replicating program).
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Originally posted by Bigsleep:
I've never even heard of a *nix or Mac virus, do they even exist? (virus being a self-replicating program).
Yeah they exist. I don't know about OSX virii though. I've heard of a couple of linux virii but you had to execute them as root for them to really work.
There was the apache on linux worm last year... much less prevalent than similar IIS worms.
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Originally posted by Bigsleep:
I've never even heard of a *nix or Mac virus, do they even exist? (virus being a self-replicating program).
The last recorded Macintosh virus was the Autostart 9805 Worm which was discovered in Hong Kong in May 1998. Before that was in March 1994 when INIT 29 and INIT 9403 were created. Most virii were created and discovered in the late 80's and early 90's. There is a list and definitions of know macintosh viruses here (http://www.sherpasoft.org.uk/MacVirus.archive/reference/viruses.html). If you look around there are actually more viruses than that, but most are variations nVIR B because soon after nVIR B was released instructions on how to make it were leaked onto the internet.