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Title: vcd's
Post by: treydogg526tx on 29 October 2002, 21:11
anyone know a  simple way to burn VCD's or SVCD's in linux?  I can convert from avi, stuff like that, with kino, and otehr apps, but is there an all in one like nero?
Title: vcd's
Post by: Calum on 29 October 2002, 22:04
why not ask at doom9.org? (that was sarcasm by the way, those windoids do nothing but flame you if you say you use linux)
not sure, but i'd be interested in this issue too.
Title: vcd's
Post by: treydogg526tx on 29 October 2002, 23:49
yeah it's sad, that, and the ability to hack other objects (I will not post what to avoid getting in trouble <evil grin> ;)   is the ONLY reason I keep XP on my machine.
Title: vcd's
Post by: hm_murdock on 30 October 2002, 00:27
what format is VCD?
Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 30 October 2002, 02:25
quote:
Originally posted by treydogg526tx:
anyone know a  simple way to burn VCD's or SVCD's in linux?  I can convert from avi, stuff like that, with kino, and otehr apps, but is there an all in one like nero?


Un-Frickin-Believable! Thanks for turning me on to "kino"!! It works perfectly with my Sony DCR-TRV320 w/ieee1394 interface. I think this works better than DV Studio that I used under Windows. In fact I rarely did any capturing of my video because I hated to reboot into Windows. Now I'll be able to do a lot more video capturing. I don't have a DVD drive so I'm not sure what capabilities exist for that. But I am pretty sure the capability exists for dumping the video to CD or DVD. Have you looked into MEncoder? I don't believe there is a good graphical interface for it but it does an excellent job at converting between video formats. Thanks again for the tip.

Also the "apt-get" for RPM utilility works great. Nice having the Debian style package management and the abilitity to automatically get and install dependent packages. Took a few seconds for me to figure out how to configure it to get through my proxy server but it works great now.
Title: vcd's
Post by: treydogg526tx on 30 October 2002, 18:25
a vcd is a video VCD, the ability to take a vcd mpeg, and convert it so that it will play on your dvd player via, cdr.  And thanks void main, I'll give that a try.
Title: vcd's
Post by: KernelPanic on 30 October 2002, 21:24
quote:
Originally posted by void main:


Un-Frickin-Believable! Thanks for turning me on to "kino"!! It works perfectly with my Sony DCR-TRV320 w/ieee1394 interface. I think this works better than DV Studio that I used under Windows. In fact I rarely did any capturing of my video because I hated to reboot into Windows. Now I'll be able to do a lot more video capturing. I don't have a DVD drive so I'm not sure what capabilities exist for that. But I am pretty sure the capability exists for dumping the video to CD or DVD. Have you looked into MEncoder? I don't believe there is a good graphical interface for it but it does an excellent job at converting between video formats. Thanks again for the tip.

Also the "apt-get" for RPM utilility works great. Nice having the Debian style package management and the abilitity to automatically get and install dependent packages. Took a few seconds for me to figure out how to configure it to get through my proxy server but it works great now.



kmencoder
Title: vcd's
Post by: Kintaro on 31 October 2002, 14:35
VCD is just MPEG and the VCD's are just in the ISO9660 format. And the MPEG data is just stored on a folder "MPEGAV" on the VCD. To play one, just open the file contained in that folder.
Title: vcd's
Post by: treydogg526tx on 31 October 2002, 19:15
well, half right, however, a true vcd, or svcd, will split the audio and video, you'll notice that sometimes if you have a foul audio frame, it will only play video when you play it on your dvd player.  However, you are right, it puts it in the mpeg folder for you dvd player to read it.
Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 1 November 2002, 02:59
quote:
Originally posted by treydogg526tx:
anyone know a  simple way to burn VCD's or SVCD's in linux?  I can convert from avi, stuff like that, with kino, and otehr apps, but is there an all in one like nero?


Hey! Looky what I found:

http://www.vcdimager.org/ (http://www.vcdimager.org/)
http://www.vcdimager.org/guis.phtml (http://www.vcdimager.org/guis.phtml)

I am getting ready to try it out now...
Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 1 November 2002, 07:50
Ok, I just made my first VCD. Pretty cool. I whipped up a couple of scripts so I didn't have to remember the commands but basically I used kino to capture and edit the video from my digital video camera then saved the video in DV2 format (say in a file called "file.avi"). Then I use my two scripts to create the VCD:

$ 2vcdmpeg file.avi

This script will take the DV2 file "file.avi" and convert it to the VCD MPEG format "file.mpeg".

$ 2vcdwrite "My VCD Volume Label" file.mpeg

This script will take one or more VCD MPEG files and create the VCD with a volume label.

Here is the "2vcdmpeg" script:
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Here is the "2vcdwrite" script:
Code: [Select]

Now, this is for the extremely basic. You can also create a VCD menu and chapters. These scripts will not do that, you'll need to read the docs on the web site for that. There is also a good forum. Also, this assumes you have all the proper software install (mjpegtools, vcdimager, cdrdao, kino).

I haven't tried the graphical frontends for vcdimager but they looked sort of cheesy and limiting. But I don't know enough about them.

There are a couple of sample VCDs on the web site that you can download and burn with "cdrdao" that show a graphical chapter menu and have some sample movies.

[ November 01, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 1 November 2002, 11:14
Holy crap! I just found out I can use my video camera to back up my computer. It will hold around 10GB of data and it is actually faster than most tape drives. I just happened to have a bunch of old data grade 8MM tapes lying around as well.

http://dvbackup.sourceforge.net/ (http://dvbackup.sourceforge.net/)

Another good list of cool DV utilities (http://www.schirmacher.de/cgi-bin/dclinks.cgi?action=view_category&category=Linux+Software)

http://www.s.netic.de/gfiala/dvbackup.html (http://www.s.netic.de/gfiala/dvbackup.html)

[ November 01, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Title: vcd's
Post by: treydogg526tx on 1 November 2002, 17:49
nice void, but let me ask this, can you convert files?  ie you download a movie, maybe it's in .avi format, can you burn it to a vcd?  That's what I'm trying to accomplish.
Title: vcd's
Post by: Kintaro on 1 November 2002, 19:50
Look around on sourceforge www.sf.net (http://www.sf.net) there will be a converting program there.
Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 1 November 2002, 22:08
quote:
Originally posted by treydogg526tx:
nice void, but let me ask this, can you convert files?  ie you download a movie, maybe it's in .avi format, can you burn it to a vcd?  That's what I'm trying to accomplish.


You should be able to convert any video to a VCD. But it may have to be resized. I believe VCD is limited to like two resolutions. Without actually doing it I believe I would have little trouble converting most anything using a combination of MEncoder and mjpegtools (or maybe just one of the two).
Title: vcd's
Post by: Calum on 1 November 2002, 23:06
any other good programs? are there any (linux) converters for quicktime formats to a real format? (i mean mpeg) or real video/audio to mpeg?

i asked this at doom9.org and got nothing but abuse in response.

what with avi being a microsoft format, and no even a real format at that (it can contain streams made by a shitload of different audio and video codecs), i didn't know it was so easy to convert from. Also, of course microsoft no longer support this format, since WMV is so much more superior... -)  (http://tongue.gif)
Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 1 November 2002, 23:19
Yes, mencoder should convert both of those types. And since mplayer/mencoder can use Windows codecs you basically can convert any type of format that Windows knows about and then some.

[ November 01, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Title: vcd's
Post by: Calum on 1 November 2002, 23:22
sounds very good, i think i will have to seriously get into that, thanks for the tip.
Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 1 November 2002, 23:53
Hey you just gave me an idea. I'm not much good at writing GUI apps in C/C++ (QT/GTK) but I can do most anything with Perl/PHP. In fact I know I could write a web page fairly quickly that would accept an uploaded file of any format and allow you to select a format to convert it to (along with other formatting options such as effects/sizing) using mencoder on the backend and then download it. I have writtem many such image convertion web apps. In fact I wrote an entire web based video security system that would use uploaded web cam images and perform motion detection and archiving etc..

I would bet that if I can find an hour or two of spare time I could have something pretty slick whipped up. Right now I've been focusing on video editing and VCDs though. Maybe later this evening I'll work on something. And then I believe there is a PHP-GTK library that might make it easy for me to convert it to a GTK app, dunno, haven't looked at that yet.
Title: vcd's
Post by: DJ on 2 November 2002, 00:34
I know this is a little off topic but is it possible to burn a DVD on your PC and watch it on a 'normal' (entertainment center type) DVD player? My roomy and I had this discussion and I was curious because I would most certainly rather buy a DVD-R for my pc ($499 and under before my discount at Best Buy) than some of the entertainment center types which I have seen as high as $999 there

DJ
Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 2 November 2002, 01:10
I know for a fact you can make VCD/SVCDs that are playable in home entertainment DVD players (not all of them like CDRs though, check the compatibility list):

http://www.vcdimager.org/compatibility.phtml (http://www.vcdimager.org/compatibility.phtml)

As far as DVDs I believe it is possible to create and write DVDs although this is still in the early stages as far as my short investigation can find:

http://www.vcdimager.org/dvdv.phtml (http://www.vcdimager.org/dvdv.phtml)

I believe if it's not here yet it will be shortly but I believe it is possible now:

http://dvd.chevelless230.com/ (http://dvd.chevelless230.com/)

[ November 01, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Title: vcd's
Post by: voidmain on 2 November 2002, 04:03
I'm an idiot. I just realized that "kino" can export to various MPEG video disc formats (VCD/SVCD/DVD). It can also export to various AVI (divx) formats. So the first of the two scripts that I wrote in an earlier post is useless (unless you want to do the conversion on the command line which does have certain benefits). The only script that is needed is the second one to actually create the VCD image and write it to disk.

[ November 01, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Title: vcd's
Post by: treydogg526tx on 4 November 2002, 19:59
thanks void man, worked like a champ, now watching movies, now find me a DTV HU emulator that works, and I can get rid of windows completely  (http://smile.gif)    

above question, yes, you can rip dvd's to your pc then burn them, however, you must have a dvd player in your pc, and a program that will crack the lock on the DVD