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Miscellaneous => Applications => Topic started by: Shaneleroy on 26 February 2005, 01:11

Title: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Shaneleroy on 26 February 2005, 01:11
Hi guys, this is my first post, and I was hoping someone could help me. It's a really minor, but annoying problem.

Basically, my Aunt was doing up her CV at my house a couple of weeks ago on Microsoft word (Office 2000, Windows 2000) while i was out. Ever since, every time I open word it automatically opens her CV as Document1. I have deleted her CV and everything else associated with it. I have unistalled and Reinstalled office twice, but it is STILL there. I have deleted document1 many times, i have deleted the words aand saved a blank page as document1 yet it still comes back.

Please help

Shane Leroy
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: MrX on 26 February 2005, 05:20
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Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: mobrien_12 on 26 February 2005, 07:59
I'm betting she saved it as normal.dot.  

Find all instances of normal .dot.  Copy them onto a backup drive.  Erase them from the main drive.  Uninstall Office. Reinstall office.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Refalm on 26 February 2005, 21:01
Quote from: mobrien_12
I'm betting she saved it as normal.dot.  

Find all instances of normal .dot.  Copy them onto a backup drive.  Erase them from the main drive.  Uninstall Office. Reinstall office.

I'm sorry, but there's a small flaw in your post. Here's a better one:
Find all instances of normal .dot.  Copy them onto a backup drive.  Erase them from the main drive.  Uninstall Office. Install Open Office (http://www.openoffice.org/).
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Shaneleroy on 26 February 2005, 21:38
Quote from: Refalm
I'm sorry, but there's a small flaw in your post. Here's a better one:
Find all instances of normal .dot.  Copy them onto a backup drive.  Erase them from the main drive.  Uninstall Office. Install Open Office (http://www.openoffice.org/).

What exactly from that link shall I download/install?

You guys are definately on the right track.My problem is   that the file is saved as "Normal.dot" and therefore windows won't allow me to rename it, delete it, save over it or anything like that. When word is open, I can follow the link to

C
Documents and settings
Administrator
Application data
Microsoft
Templates
normal.dot

However, when i try and save a blank file as normal.dot, it says an open file can't replace an existing one. also , when word is not open the above trail stops after i open the Administrator data folder.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Refalm on 26 February 2005, 22:25
Quote from: Shaneleroy
What exactly from that link shall I download/install?

OpenOffice.org, the free and better Office packet.

It can open and save Word, Excel and PowerPoint files, including opening .dot without the bullshit.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: JanusChrist on 26 February 2005, 23:25
+1 for Open Office
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Orethrius on 27 February 2005, 09:00
*sighs*  Make me break out the class PC, why don't ya?

Quick Fix:
(1) Hold down the Windows key and hit R.
(2) Type
Code: [Select]
"C:\Documents and settings\Administrator\Application data\Microsoft\Templates"
(3) Make sure Word is closed (any Office application, for that matter).
(4) Copy and paste normal.dot to the same directory, this should duplicate it.
(5) Open the duplicate.  Delete EVERYTHING in it.  Save and Exit.
(6) Shift-Delete the original normal.dot.  Say "Yes" or "OK" or whatever the hell it is.
(7) Rename "copy of normal.dot" to "normal.dot"
(8) Enjoy until someone borks up Word again.

Permanent Fix:
(1) Using Add/Remove Programs, uninstall Microsoft Word and  any other Office programs you may run across.
(2) Install OpenOffice.org (http://download.openoffice.org/1.1.4/contribute.html?continue=http%3A//www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/openoffice/stable/1.1.4/OOo_1.1.4_Win32Intel_install.zip).
(3) Relax in the knowledge that this crap won't happen again.  :cool:
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Shaneleroy on 27 February 2005, 20:17
Orethrius, You are the man.

It's fixed . And i will take all you guys advice on OpenOffice.

Again, thank you all for taking the time to help me. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Orethrius on 28 February 2005, 04:02
See guys?  Solve a problem and they take your advice.  Cram a solution down their throats, and they never return.  Hope you switch to OpenOffice soon.  ;)
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: WMD on 28 February 2005, 07:17
A bit of warning to ya: OpenOffice is slow.  I'd use Abiword, and Gnumeric (which I don't know if it runs on Windows...) and wait for OpenOffice 2.0, which is supposed to be a bit faster.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Orethrius on 28 February 2005, 08:29
...and Microsoft Office is akin to Speedy Gonzales?  I think they'd be better off with any OpenOffice for the time being...
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 28 February 2005, 10:23
Quote from: WMD
A bit of warning to ya: OpenOffice is slow.  I'd use Abiword, and Gnumeric (which I don't know if it runs on Windows...) and wait for OpenOffice 2.0, which is supposed to be a bit faster.


Abiword runs on Windows, I don't know about Gnumeric.

I use OpenOffice and it is a bit slow (even compared to MS office dare I say it) but it makes up for this in features and stability. The reason for it's slowness is it uses one very big module for everything, i.e. when you're word processing you have the code for the speadsheet, drawing and presentation packages also loaded whether you like it or not. MS office is slightly more efficent with resources as it has separate modules for different functions.

I have tried various OpenOffice 2.0 builds and some have been slower than OpenOffice 1 and some are faster. Others have been a bit buggy but they've been very stable. OpenOffice 2.0 rocks and is a lot better than MS Office and it's not long before it's first release I've heard it could be ready as early as next month.

The only problem with the packages you've listed WMD is you've not metioned any drawing or presentation software.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: jtpenrod on 21 March 2005, 03:18
Quote

You guys are definately on the right track.My problem is that the file is saved as "Normal.dot" and therefore windows won't allow me to rename it, delete it, save over it or anything like that. When word is open, I can follow the link to... However, when i try and save a blank file as normal.dot, it says an open file can't replace an existing one. also , when word is not open the above trail stops after i open the Administrator data folder.


1) Don't worry about it. Bill Gates knows better than you do what's best for you.

2) Stop thinking for yourself. It's a really bad habit to get into.

:D
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: WMD on 23 March 2005, 02:22
Quote
...and Microsoft Office is akin to Speedy Gonzales?

Almost.  MS Office isn't slow at all.  I used to run 2000 on a Pentium 166 with 32MB RAM.  It wasn't that slow.

OpenOffice is much slower.  Which is why I really don't use it.  I haven't need presentation software in quite a while, anyway.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Lord C on 25 April 2005, 17:36
Wow, you guys are being very kind :0
Especially Orethrius :)

I was expecting to see a load of "This aint no MS helpdesk, rtf-homepage" :P
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Calum on 25 April 2005, 18:32
well as people keep pointing out, being crabby bastards isn't making friends of these windoids, who may be convinced to switch at a later date.

as *i* point out, if we help people patch up their windows systems, what motive will they have to think of trying any alternative?

i suppose if it can be patched up, then fine, but they should have to get this information from microsoft customer support, or at the very worst, some group of windows users who provide help and tips for the love of it (like those nazis over at the windows bbs for instance)
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 25 April 2005, 20:53
Exactly Calum I agree with you, being nice is the right way to go about changing poeple's opinions. Starting bitch threads and posting personal abuse about members (as some other members do) who have different opinions to most people here will only get you labled as a troll.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: BobTheHob on 25 April 2005, 20:56
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Exactly Calum, being nice is the right way to go about changing poeple's opinions. Starting bitch threads and posting personal abuse about members who have different opinions to most people here will only get you labled as a troll.
lol, read his second sentence
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 25 April 2005, 21:19
Sorry I didn't mean we should help Windows users with their  I meant we shouldn't resort to flaming people with pro-Microsoft opinions. We won't win them over by starting imature bitch threads, they'll think: "Microsoft's never rude to me but the UNIX crowd are a load of ill-mannered jumped-up school boys." The moral of the story is to treat other people with respect, even if they have a different opinion it doesn't mean they're a bad person.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: BobTheHob on 25 April 2005, 21:26
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Sorry I didn't mean we should help Windows users with their I meant we shouldn't resort to flaming people with pro-Microsoft opinions. We won't win them over by starting imature bitch threads, they'll think: "Microsoft's never rude to me but the UNIX crowd are a load of ill-mannered jumped-up school boys." The moral of the story is to treat other people with respect, even if they have a different opinion it doesn't mean they're a bad person.
Heres the thing man, I have no problem with windows users, alot of my friends use windows. I tell people how to fix their windows all the time. The reason I am pissed at muzzy is because, he knows better than to think that windows is better than *nix. Which is okay for him to think, and I wouldent mind him debating it, except most of his posts are rediculously false. Such as "Windows is better than *nix, I think none of you are good enough to use windows and thats why you use *nix". He knows better than that. Now who did you say was trolling again?
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Calum on 25 April 2005, 21:37
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Exactly Calum, being nice is the right way to go about changing poeple's opinions. Starting bitch threads and posting personal abuse about members who have different opinions to most people here will only get you labled as a troll.

are you suggesting that i do or did this?

or are you just addicted to mentioning this in every post at the moment?

i have not started any "bitch threads", or posted "personal abuse" (well, generally speaking anyway, certainly not for just having differing opinions to me) about anybody, so why bring this up in this thread?
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 25 April 2005, 21:37
BobTheHob,
There's still no excuse to start bitch treads which are a form of trolling. If muzzy thinks Windows is better than UNIX then let him think it and if he wants to argue about it here he has the right to and he is also welome to. I've said before let him have his opinion and you can keep yours. Agree to disagree with him like a mature adult instead of resorting to pathetic flame-warfare.
Title: Re: Microsoft Word problem
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 25 April 2005, 21:53
Quote from: Calum
are you suggesting that i do or did this?

or are you just addicted to mentioning this in every post at the moment?

i have not started any "bitch threads", or posted "personal abuse" (well, generally speaking anyway, certainly not for just having differing opinions to me) about anybody, so why bring this up in this thread?


Sorry Calum, I was talking to BobTheHob.

I hadn't read your post when I posted the above post as it was also targeted at BobTheHob so I've edited it to indicate this.