Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Kintaro on 31 March 2005, 03:42
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http://web.aanet.com.au/kintaro/images/LinuxIE.jpg
I was bored
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yeehaw.
Mr. X
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how did you do that? (and why would you want to?)
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everybody's favorite(favourite for Calum) non-emulator.
Why? 3 reasons off the top of my head: Having to go through an NTLM proxy, testing a page to see how it renders on the browser with 89% of the market, and "The page is designed for IE only, please come back with an inferior browser"
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Or, because:
I was bored
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Having to go through an NTLM proxy,
Isn't MS ISA Server an NTLM proxy? My school uses it and Mozilla works fine. (Even on Linux)
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how did you do that? (and why would you want to?)
CrossOver Office
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wine will run IE now? ok, whatever,
i don't see why you would want to test your site on Ie though, unless i suppose, you are doing work for a client. if people moan that your site doesn't work in IE, get them to upgrade to what's known as a web browser. there are plenty around.
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wine will run IE now? ok, whatever,
i don't see why you would want to test your site on Ie though, unless i suppose, you are doing work for a client. if people moan that your site doesn't work in IE, get them to upgrade to what's known as a web browser. there are plenty around.
Making you no different than the sites designed with only IE in mind and say "This site is designed for IE only at 800x600 with 32bpp, and the browser window maximised, Please do not use a different browser."
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no. i am 100 percent different, and here's why:
those sites try to force you to use IE
*i* try to force you *not* to use IE
i try to even out the balance a little.
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However, you still are forcing a person to use a browser other than the one they use, just to view one site. Firefox is great and al, but shouldn't it stand on its OWN merits, rather than your attempts to push it onto people?
100% different would be you NOT encouraging people to use a certain broswers, and not have anything of that like.
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Using web standards instead of distorting web pages to work with IE makes Firefox stand on its own merits.
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just like the purolator.com site, when i went to check on my mail status or whatever its called it said 'IE only, so ha ha'
so i just switched the 'indentify as' part in opera quick preferences to IE and voil
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I installed it to see if it would install.
What would really break your geeky hearts is that it loads up faster then Firefox.
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just like the purolator.com site, when i went to check on my mail status or whatever its called it said 'IE only, so ha ha'
so i just switched the 'indentify as' part in opera quick preferences to IE and voil
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Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the UI is done in C++, as opposed to XUL.
Application-skinning was a bad idea when announced, and it is still a terrible idea.
The top three rules of UI design: Consistency, Consistency, Consistency.
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Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the UI is done in C++, as opposed to XUL.
As XUL worked out so well for Mozilla and Firefox (extentions, os-independency, etc.) it had its share of problems in the beginnning.
I remember tweaking .jar files because some .xpi files installed wrongly into the chrome directory (either the user of all user one).
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However, you still are forcing a person to use a browser other than the one they use, just to view one site. Firefox is great and al, but shouldn't it stand on its OWN merits, rather than your attempts to push it onto people?
100% different would be you NOT encouraging people to use a certain broswers, and not have anything of that like.
no, i still disagree with you (although i do take your point), because forcing people to use IE is not the same as forcing people not to use IE, even on an abstract level. there are dozens, scores, or even hundreds of browsers to choose from, and i think people should be forced to use any of them other than IE, as i said, just to redress the balance.
personally i think it should be between opera, konqueror, galeon, epiphany, mozilla and firefox, and maybe dillo and lynx too, BUT that's a matter of choice.
i have all the above browsers installed (except galeon and epiphany at the moment, but not for any reasons of issues i have with them) so i am not in any way trying to force the use of ONE and only one browser.
however IE is, and so are its maintainers.
This is a mono-browser position, and i have a multi-browser position, if you like.
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In future, html will be obsolete because computers will have power to render TeX or postscript on the fly ;)
Well, seriously speaking, it would help if the html and css specifications were a bit more specific than they are. A lot of things aren't specified at all, and in result different browsers render things differently. As a result, it doesn't matter what browser you use, you always lose anyway. If the specifications weren't so loose, we wouldn't have these browser issues. We could just say that browser X renders things wrong, and its not the site's fault. Now, it's up to interpretation in some cases...
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In future, html will be obsolete because computers will have power to render TeX or postscript on the fly ;)
As I said before, I believe XML will be the shit in the coming decade. It's easy, os independent, and is able do UI widgets that Microsoft is now trying to perform with the ever so bloated and mediocre ASP .NET.
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I Think All Pages Will Be Bitmap Images In The Future Just To Make More People Buy Fasttt Interweb
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Windows Update actually worked:
http://kintaro.noobify.com/images/FoundUpdates.jpg
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How the hell? I've never seen anyone get that far. Usually it gets to "locating updates" and stops.
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Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the UI is done in C++, as opposed to XUL.
Application-skinning was a bad idea when announced, and it is still a terrible idea.
The top three rules of UI design: Consistency, Consistency, Consistency.
skyman8081: "Consistency, consistency, consistency."
Ballmer: "Developers, developers, developers."
Gates: "Richness, richness, richness."
Me: "Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit."
Sorry I had to.
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I use crossoffice too. I can use the fallowing software with no problem not because I need them but just to see if I can.
All these programs are .exes.
The apps with no comments work with out problems.
-OfficeXP (Access, PP, Word, Excell, FP, all work fine).
-Outlook
-WMP (it shits on it self when you launch it)
-AIM
-DevC++ - http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html-
-IE6
-Steam (some issues with how the GUI responds).
-Visual Studio 6
-Paint Shop pro (major issues with how graphics are displayed)
-Adobe Phtoshop 7
-Quicktime player
-Netscape for windows
-Real Player 8 (Later versions just crap out).
-Tried tinyfirewall. It installs but it then craps out when you launch it.
-DirectX can be installed if you copy some of the files from your original windows install.
-ICQ
-Winamp (locks X big time and you need to restart X).
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It gets far because I have crossover office professional.