Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Kintaro on 6 May 2005, 19:00
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They don't support updating firmware form DOS? That sucks.
There is something similar to what you downloaded. It's called BartPE (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/), and you can build it yourself with all kinds of plugins. Unlike that super-dooper boot thingy you downloaded, BartPE is legal to use if you own a license to Windows XP.
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They don't support updating firmware form DOS? That sucks.
There is something similar to what you downloaded. It's called BartPE (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/), and you can build it yourself with all kinds of plugins. Unlike that super-dooper boot thingy you downloaded, BartPE is legal to use if you own a license to Windows XP.
Illegal just makes things all the more sexy.
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I once actually tried the Dutch version of Windows PE (for Windows XP Home SP1) when I worked in a computer store.
I was still impressed that Microsoft would actually take the time and effort to somehow help the OEM's and computer stores, while Microsoft blackmailed them (only install one OS per PC or no cheap Windows license for you) for a pretty long time.
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Crud. I just bought a Plextor PX-716A DVD burner, and sure enough, the firmware update programs run from windows. As soon as I backup all my Data to DVD's, I'm going to be going FreeBSD only on my PC.
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I flashed my PX716A with BartPE as the pxupdate tool wouldnt work for me in linux. Thank god for that Windows livecd. Else it would have been a dual boot :nothappy:.
New to these forums, btw ;).
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Nice to know I can do that if I need to. I've decided to stay with Dual boot though, as there are a few things that I need windows for.
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What? Did I just hear "Windows Live CD?"
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I think RaZoR1394 meant "Linux Live CD" ;)
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No. He meant Windows live CD. He was referring to bartPE, which is the Windows equivalent of a Linux live CD.
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Oh sorry my mistake I should've read this thread properly.
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Could you have installed the firmware update with FreeDOS?
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Nope. The Firmware updates are 32bit Windows apps.
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Are they GUI or console, because you can run Win32 console apps with some DOS extenders.
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GUI.
If it was possible I would have already fucking done it. I will probably have to install Windows to do this, I'll try BartPE first but at the moment I cannot be fucked.
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So how good is this BartPE? I mean, how much worse than Windows...?
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BartPE is basically Windows XP stripped down to the bare essentials. You can add all kinds of plugins - like Firefox, to make it a semi-functional desktop, but thats not really it's purpose. It's purpose is to rescue borked OS's.
You can run adaware and virus scan utilities from it to scan hard drives for viruses and spyware and other nasties that would be hard to remove if you were booted up to the OS.
It has networking support, so you can boot up and map to a network drive to dump data off of the hard disks. I've used it a couple of times to fix peoples PCs that were badly infected with adware.
Other usefull thigns you can do, are scandisk, and defrag with dirms.
It really does make a fantasic recue disk. FOr rescuing windows, it's much better than using linux since you get native read/write NTFS support.
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Still it really annoys me a lot that cd/dvd-reader/burner manufacturers are releasing their firmware tools as win32 gui tools. Damn idiots! The binary files from Plextor were just an exception at the Belgium site which will be removed later on. I believe Liteon also doesn't support binary files anymore... Honestly, how hard can it be to release the simple binary file + maybe a DOS flash tool. And if they could put a little more effort, they could release a linux flashing tool, binary and a stripped linux kernel or/and just a linux tool + binary file.
About BartPE... The disc even mounted my memory cards and USB sticks so next time there is no need to add the files on the disc. Though main problem with BartPE is that you need Windows to run it, either native or in Vmware as it won't work in wine (at least with standard wine). I ran it with VMWare. HERE (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/) is the site.
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The reason you need native Windows and not Windows running in VMware is because the program needs direct access to your hardware - something that Linux will under no circumstances allow a Windows program to.
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The reason you need native Windows and not Windows running in VMware is because the program needs direct access to your hardware - something that Linux will under no circumstances allow a Windows program to.
What?
The poster above was talking about BartPE not working in wine, not a flashing tool.
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Wasn't he talking about useing BartPE to run a flashing tool?
Sorry I wasn't clear enough this is my point; if he wants to run BartPE to use a flashing tool and runs BartPE in VMware it still won't be any good because VMWare still won't allow you direct access to the hardware so either way you're fucked.
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No, lol. I meant the BartPE program that creates the livecd disc. Not the livecd itself. I think it can be run in wine but it may need some modifications,