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Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: skyman8081 on 26 May 2005, 05:56

Title: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: skyman8081 on 26 May 2005, 05:56
What do you prefer to drive?  A nice and powerful Manual Transmission, or an Underpowered at the expense of "ease of use."

I drive a stick, it's the only way to go, best way to drive, with power under your feet.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Orethrius on 26 May 2005, 06:06
It depends on what kind of car we're talking about here.
Sports car (convertibles, Corvettes, high-end imports): Manual, no question.
Mid-sized luxury: Automatic.  It is luxury, after all.
Compact non-sport (Corolla, Accord): Automatic, but only because they can be short-shifted.  
Sport hatchbacks (Civic DX, Scion xA): Definitely stick for that little "something extra."
Van/Truck/SUV: Automatic. I don't like having to deal with twenty gears when a computer could be doing it every bit as inefficiently.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Stilly on 26 May 2005, 06:12
a truck must be manual

you can't pull shit as well with an automatic.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Orethrius on 26 May 2005, 06:19
Quote from: Stilly
a truck must be manual

you can't pull shit as well with an automatic.

Just so we're clear, I meant 3/4-ton Suburbans and Excursions as SUVs, and panel trucks (and tractor-trailers) as trucks.  On light trucks I'd have no trouble endorsing a manual transmission.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: WMD on 26 May 2005, 06:42
I don't drive, you insensitive clod!

....

:(
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Kintaro on 26 May 2005, 16:09
Tiptronic, auto - but can be manual.

Manuals are a pain in the arse in the city because of lots of traffic lights and crap like that, so you just shift the thing into Drive and use your break. However auto's are brainless sods when your travelling through the hills or you have a trailer with your big momma in the back. So you shift the thing into the right bottom corner and then move the stick back to go up a gear, and back to go down a gear. Thats what my dads car has. It's a Ford BA Falcon, which is a standard model family stationwagon, I believe they are exclusive to Australia (I know they are australian designed and made, except some of the electronics). Its pretty cool to drive with, the car handles hella well if you want to bash it through the Australian bushland hills.

Other cars also have this feature.

The BA Falcon also has a fly-by-wire accelerator, which has its benifits of being able to get an easy feel for speed, however if you were on the freeway doing 110km/h and suddenly there was a technical failure you would have several other cars planted in your rear end.

I've only been driving for less then a year myself, it's been a great car to learn to drive in.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: bedouin on 26 May 2005, 16:42
I never learned how to use a manual, so I really have no other choice.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Refalm on 26 May 2005, 17:13
Manual. I once drove in an automatic, and I was grabbing for the stick all the time.

I simply love shifting gear and I'll never buy a car with an automatic.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Laukev7 on 26 May 2005, 17:23
I can't drive.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: piratePenguin on 26 May 2005, 18:05
I can't/don't drive, and I hope I'll never need to own a car.
I do like manuals though, they're as important as any other documentation :D
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 26 May 2005, 21:02
Manual I suppose - I've never driven an automatic before so I can't realy make an informed decision.

As far as vehicles go I'm an A to B person, I only have a Honda CG125 motor cycle and I can't see myself getting anything else untill I really need to.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Jenda on 26 May 2005, 23:40
I'm a non-driver. If you don't know what that is, think non-swimmers.
Title: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Aaron Ni on 27 May 2005, 04:08
First car was an automatic with P-R-N-D-2-1 which I'd shift anyway.
Current pickup is manual which I often clutchless shift in town, up gears and down gears.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Siplus on 27 May 2005, 05:22
Screw stick shifts!

The closest i get is driving in a car and switching to 'autostick' just for fun
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: adiment on 27 May 2005, 05:44
I never drove stick...

but go with automatic so you can hold your beer in one hand and still drive.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: skyman8081 on 27 May 2005, 06:13
A little late, but, if you don't drive, don't post.  Simple really.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: MrX on 27 May 2005, 06:37
in fact, I do drive. people crazy, that is.

mr X
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Orethrius on 27 May 2005, 08:01
Quote from: e7ement
I never drove stick...

but go with automatic so you can hold your beer in one hand and still drive.

Actually legal in Texas.  :D
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Kintaro on 27 May 2005, 10:55
Yea, I hear McDonalds are getting the Senate to ban Manual Shift.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Refalm on 27 May 2005, 13:06
Quote from: e7ement
I never drove stick...

but go with automatic so you can hold your beer in one hand and still drive.

You can do that with manual too. Takes some practice.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: KernelPanic on 27 May 2005, 19:24
Quote from: Refalm
You can do that with manual too. Takes some practice.


Just have to steer with your knees.
No problem with wimpy modern over-servo'd racks :)
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: choasforages on 3 June 2005, 05:07
stickshift. its a control thing....im really good at keeping cars on the road at insane rates of speed. and not rice wagons either........ive only wrecked when i was doing the speed limit, and ive recovered from wicked 110mph skids in the rain....in a family sedan. got ahold of my chevy berretta and sadly buried my license in legal troubles........just a word of wisdom
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: skyman8081 on 4 June 2005, 06:04
but you didn't vote...
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Annorax on 4 June 2005, 06:15
Lifetime barred license.... guessing my opinion doesn't mean shit here.

But still, automatic.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Orethrius on 4 June 2005, 06:19
Quote from: Annorax
Lifetime barred license

Dare I ask how?
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: toadlife on 4 June 2005, 10:45
I own a Ford Ranger and a Hyundai Sonata.

I wish the Ford had a manual transmission, for the reasons Orethrius pointed out, but it's an automatic. I bought the truck from my mother six years ago, when I desperatly needed a vehicle, so I didn't have a choice back then.

As for the Hyundai, the V6 model (which we have) only comes with automatic, and the four cylider model which has a manual option was WAY underpowered. My wife can't drive one anyway, so it was out of the question. The hyundai has the 'shiftronic' transmission which is basically a psuedo-manual transmission with an automatic clutch. It lets you change the gears when you want, but it won't let you do insane things like throw it into 1st gear while doing 90mph, or blow up the engine by redlining the engine. It's actually pretty cool. If you throw it into manual mode, you can just leave it alone and it acts as sort of a 'performance mode'. In regular mode, the transmission will shift well below redline if you are at full throttle, but in manual mode it waits till it redlines to shift. This helps out acceleration a bit.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Refalm on 4 June 2005, 19:24
Quote from: KernelPanic
Just have to steer with your knees.
No problem with wimpy modern over-servo'd racks :)

Cupholders help a helluvah lot you know ;)
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Annorax on 4 June 2005, 23:45
Quote from: Orethrius
Dare I ask how?


Accident, insurance refused to cover, the nephew of the head of the DMV was in my car. He promptly barred my license permanently and asked a judge to give me an "appropriate" sentence. I got a $2000 fine and a 2 year suspended prison sentence... for a $500 traffic ticket. :(
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: KernelPanic on 5 June 2005, 00:07
Quote from: Annorax
Accident, insurance refused to cover, the nephew of the head of the DMV was in my car. He promptly barred my license permanently and asked a judge to give me an "appropriate" sentence. I got a $2000 fine and a 2 year suspended prison sentence... for a $500 traffic ticket. :(



Shitty.
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Orethrius on 5 June 2005, 01:54
Quote from: Annorax
Accident, insurance refused to cover, the nephew of the head of the DMV was in my car. He promptly barred my license permanently and asked a judge to give me an "appropriate" sentence. I got a $2000 fine and a 2 year suspended prison sentence... for a $500 traffic ticket. :(

 [OFFTOPIC]That's judicial bias, and if I were you I'd get an attorney once I could afford it and appeal the verdict. Better yet, file a lawsuit for finding of fact against the judge and get him thrown off the bench, that's bullshit.[/OFFTOPIC]
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Refalm on 7 June 2005, 22:06
Conclusion: automatic is for people who drive long endless roads daily and can't afford cruise control :p
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: jcprov21 on 6 July 2005, 01:51
i perfer manual transmissions: if you do to i like this site:

http://www.standardshift.com (http://www.standardshift.com)
 
they have a great fourm section
Title: Re: Stick Shift or Automatic
Post by: Refalm on 6 July 2005, 19:39
Most cars in my country are stick shift.

I feel uncomfortable with an automatic. I can't directly control the RPM!