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Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Lord C on 19 June 2005, 01:35
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I'm learning to type from scratch
checkout http://dvzine.org/
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I'm learning to type from scratch
checkout http://dvzine.org/ (http://dvzine.org/)
HOW IS THAT KEYBOARD LAYOUT SIMPLER THEN QWERTY????
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Asdfghjkl
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zxcvbnm
Dvorak always intrigued me, but i've never been bothered to make the change.
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http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/
Wow. I'm gonna learn Dvorak as soon as I get home - and that's soon! July 29!
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Oh, and BTW, Dvorak was of Czech origin - like me :). What dissapoints me is the fact that a Dvorak Keyboard Layout is not available in Czech. Or at least not as elaborate.
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HOW IS THAT KEYBOARD LAYOUT SIMPLER THEN QWERTY????
The QWERTY layout was designed specifically to slow typists down. It's ended up becoming a standard by pretty much by accident.
Read the history of Dvorak and QUERTY and you'll see.
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Toadlife: Not really. You read. The Qwerty was designed by Sholes because of jamming Typewriters, but not to slow ppl down, just to separate common digraphs (th, ei, ie, ck, st etc.). The slow-'em-down thing is a myth. I begin to realise just how I hate this random keyboard layout...
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I can't convert my keyboard to Dvorak, since it's a British one ;)
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Toadlife: Not really. You read. The Qwerty was designed by Sholes because of jamming Typewriters, but not to slow ppl down, just to separate common digraphs (th, ei, ie, ck, st etc.). The slow-'em-down thing is a myth. I begin to realise just how I hate this random keyboard layout...
Okay, yes it was designed to keep fast typists from jamming mechanical typewriters, but then end result was the same - it slowed people down. A permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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I can't convert my keyboard to Dvorak, since it's a British one ;)
What a rubbish excuse lol.
My keyboard is British.
I tried it without changing the keys around, was fine.
I decided to re-arrenge the keys, to dedicate myself.
You lose the pound sign. That's all :-)
Alt-codes anyone ;-)
HOW IS THAT KEYBOARD LAYOUT SIMPLER THEN QWERTY????
Read the 'zine.
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I feel I have learned QWERTY pretty well so I will stick with that.
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What a rubbish excuse lol.
My keyboard is British.
I tried it without changing the keys around, was fine.
I decided to re-arrenge the keys, to dedicate myself.
You lose the pound sign. That's all :-)
Alt-codes anyone ;-)
How about keys like # and ` and '? They are different from US ones.
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Okay, yes it was designed to keep fast typists from jamming mechanical typewriters, but then end result was the same - it slowed people down. A permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Well, no. It was changed even before there were any typists. The Remington, the first typewriter available to public already had the Qwerty. But I agree, it was not (by Sholes) intended to be a final solution, just temporary. And there is no reason to be using the Qwerty, whatsoever. I have some trouble though, because there is no Czech version... and to think Dvorak was Czech!!!
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Well, no. It was changed even before there were any typists. The Remington, the first typewriter available to public already had the Qwerty. But I agree, it was not (by Sholes) intended to be a final solution, just temporary. And there is no reason to be using the Qwerty, whatsoever. I have some trouble though, because there is no Czech version... and to think Dvorak was Czech!!!
You live in Canada, get the French version :)
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I've been reading the zine, pretty interesting. I have just taken notice to how fucking much I wiggle these little fuckers on my hands around to type shit out. I might switch to DVORAK! Problem is mutilating my laptop to suit, because of special Fn keys and such I might just have to make a new damn set of keys or something, like covers for them. Any Innovative Ideas?
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One things for fucking sure: My kids are learning Dvorak.
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I've been reading the zine, pretty interesting. I have just taken notice to how fucking much I wiggle these little fuckers on my hands around to type shit out. I might switch to DVORAK! Problem is mutilating my laptop to suit, because of special Fn keys and such I might just have to make a new damn set of keys or something, like covers for them. Any Innovative Ideas?
There should be special Dvorak versions for laptops and British keyboards.
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There should be special Dvorak versions for laptops and British keyboards.
Um?
http://dvzine.org/info/international.html (http://dvzine.org/info/international.html)
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OK, folks, how far have you all progressed? I'm typing DVORAK right now. Still a little slow, but I can already feel the difference.
If y'all want to learn DV., try dvorak7min (I found it in synaptic). It' really sth: I'm like halfway through and look at me go!
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I'm trying it without re-aranging the letters this time. But it's still inconvinient that there isn't a Brittish Dvorak lay-out available (no, it's not about the pound sign, it's about #, " and @ different from US-International keyboards).
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I'd say get used to it. And your not supposed to look at the keyboard anyway - a thing dvorak7min taught me in two days.
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BTW I just finished the course.
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redhotsuspect
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huh?
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I'm trying it without re-aranging the letters this time. But it's still inconvinient that there isn't a Brittish Dvorak lay-out available (no, it's not about the pound sign, it's about #, " and @ different from US-International keyboards).
Are you nuts> Dud you read my post from July?
setxkbmap dvorak gb
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BTW, what happenned to Lord C?
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Dvorak7Min (http://freshmeat.net/projects/dvorak7mintutor/) works great :thumbup:
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I was gonna start a now topic on dvorak, but since this is already here I'll just add on.
First, QWERTY was developed mostly to promote the brand name TYPE WRITER ... note that this can all be typed using the top row QWERTYUIOP ... how interesting. More here (http://www.superkids.com/aweb/pages/features/qwerty/qwerty.shtml).
There are also many tests (http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/counts.html) that show dvorak is significantly more comfortable to use, since all common keys are on the home row, but not necessarily faster, or popular ... much like M$ in some remote way. You know everyone uses it cuz they don't know any better.
I use dvorak ... I actually switched soon after switching to Linux ... just to make the process all that more challanging :D
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I'm trying to type this way now.
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this is me typing.