Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: luckyp3616 on 22 June 2005, 16:30
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My sister uses Microsoft Windows XP(R) to use Microsoft Word 2002(R). She uses Microsoft products, but I want to rid myself of M$ and extend :tux: to all my disk. but how should I go about ridding mysel of what my sister needs for school? I loved :tux:(linux) to begin with.
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mabey OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org)?
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mabey OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org)?
but her book is all about m$ word, so its a manual on it. She is going to get a computer this december. so should I delete it then?
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before you delete windows i would check to make sure that word 2002 is compatible with open office for linux.
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before you delete windows i would check to make sure that word 2002 is compatible with open office for linux.
Most of it is compatible.
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Most of it is compatible.
LINUXX ROXX!!!
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Ya it rocks but i just wish i could get UT2004 Linux version to instal under suse
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Ya it rocks but i just wish i could get UT2004 Linux version to instal under suse
So what's wrong?
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suse sucks?
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My sister uses Microsoft Windows XP(R) to use Microsoft Word 2002(R). She uses Microsoft products, but I want to rid myself of M$ and extend :tux: to all my disk. but how should I go about ridding mysel of what my sister needs for school? I loved :tux:(linux) to begin with.
Please provide more infromation.
Whos computer is it?
What does she use it for apart from word processing?
How much does she know about, computers? Do you think she'll be able to learn Linux easily?
Do you get on well with her?
My advice is don't force things on people, Bill Gates has forced many people to use Windows and if you try to force someone to use Linux then you'll be just as bad.
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Please provide more infromation.
Whos computer is it?
What does she use it for apart from word processing?
How much does she know about, computers? Do you think she'll be able to learn Linux easily?
Do you get on well with her?
My advice is don't force things on people, Bill Gates has forced many people to use Windows and if you try to force someone to use Linux then you'll be just as bad.
Golden advice.
You might think...oh "Open Office is just as good as MS Office", but for people who are not into messing with computers, changing to from MS Office to Open Office can be very difficult, frustrating, and traumatic experience.
Non-techie people take a lot longer to get accustomed to software interfaces, and once they do become accustomed to them, changing is extremely diffcult.
but her book is all about m$ word, so its a manual on it.
A book on it? Is she taking a class on MS office? If she is, do not remove it.
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if it aint broke don't fix it, just improve it.
Mr X
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Just another point, I would recommend educating her about open source software in general. Tell her that alternatives to Microsoft software like FireFox and OpenOffice do exist. Let her make her own mind up, you never know she might like OpenOffice and if she doesn't then fair enough but don't bother arguing with her about it. I'm best of friends with my sister and I wouldn't let Microsoft fuck up a good friendship, Bill Gates just isn't worth it. :D
When we got our new computer (my father, bother and I payed an equal share toward it as we're the main users) it came with MS works, I installed OpenOffice, and managed to persuade both my father an brother to use it because I demenonstrated to them how much better it is. I also tried to get them to use FireFox but my dad prefurs IE for some reason but I managed to convert my brother to Opera.
I then set up everyones user accounts as limited and made an administrator account and put the password on display, often people complained because some programs produced the odd error, but I explained to them why it was best to use limited accounts and how to use the run as administrator menu. Now I rarely have any complaints the system runs well and I accept people use different software.
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introduce your father to firefoxie.com or something there is no reason why he shouldnt not look into it at least
Mr X
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Whos computer is it?
Mine.
What does she use it for apart from word processing?
* Yahoo! Messenger
* Mail
? Online Games
* Java
* Flash
X Macromedia Shockwave
* = Available on Linux
? = Some
X = Not Implemented by Makers for linux (again, :fu: FUCKMicrosoft)
How much does she know about, computers?
Teachable. Interested Apps:
(++) Mozilla
(++) Yahoo! Messenger
(NI) XCDRoast or K3B
(NI) GTK-Gnutella or Phex
(NI) OpenOffice
(EE) Anything Command-Based
(++) = Knows how to use
(NI) = Not showed to her
(EE) = Cannot Use
Do you think she'll be able to learn Linux easily?
If I could get KDE up, automatticaly (Init, maybe?)
Do you get on well with her?
Yes
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Microsoft Deletion Confirmed! She has no more Winbloze XP classes!
T-2:00 (H:MM)
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Deleting...
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Darn... My Tomcat is on it! I should delete it and create the minimal OS for Tomcat Teating!
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Windows... DELETED!!
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Microsoft Office totally rocks over OpenOffice.
I use both.
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kintaro,
I agree MS Office is better, but that's because it's been developed for much longer and the shear amount of money being invested in it, however it's not anywhere as good value for money as OpenOffice, oh sorry kintaro I forgot you use warez.
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I never really used MS Office too much, never needed to, never wanted to. Except in school of course... Fucking bastards.
I mess about in the OpenOffice beta occasionally though. I think it's pretty damn good and it runs very well (but of course it does crash now and again, but that's what betas do. It recovers from them brilliantly too). Taking the ECDL nexy year as part of our transition year course (we have to do it in schoool), so as soon as I can, I'll be telling whoever is over it that I'll not be doing my ECDL exam in MS Office, even IF it was just because Microsoft are evil bastards and I don't wanna support them and I wanna support free software etc etc etc.
They can either let me do it in OpenOffice, or I'll be skipping the ECDL. Easy as pi.
Anyhow, why do you two prefer MS Office to OpenOffice?
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Anyhow, why do you two prefer MS Office to OpenOffice?
Must be the lock-in.
That, or the black-box coding.
:D
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Anyhow, why do you two prefer MS Office to OpenOffice?
Yes, I can answer your question but it isn't as simple as saying "MS Office is better than OpenOffice" or vice versa. To be honest I don't prefer MS Office but it is better than OpenOffice when you look purely at the balence of features:
- MS Office has a grammar checker and OO doesn't
- Better spell checker.
- MS Equation is lot better than OO Math type.
- Excel has statistical analyses functions are missing from calc.
- Speed and resource usage, with MS office the applications are all separate with OO they're all in soffice.bin so you have to have the whole thing loaded just to do one task like word processing this makes OO consume more memory and makes it slower for small tasks.
- Ease of use, for example to insert a page of landsape in an OO document you have to fuck around with creating a new style but in word you can just change the properties of the page in question.
I would've added lack of Word Art but I've checked out the OO 2.0 beta and the Fontwork feature is better than Wordart.
However OpenOffice is also better in other ways:
- PDF Export.
- Better drawing package.
- SGV export.
- Better file format support.
Orethrius,
I see your point but lock-in simply isn't a factor unless you use the advanced features of MS Office, I transfer files between MS and Open Office with out any trouble.
I use MS Office at work and college and OpenOffice at home. OpenOffice offers better value for money as it has the features most people will need and it's free while MS Office cost a lot. OpenOffice is also improving at a faster rate than MS Office which hasn't improved that much since 1997.
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I feel it should be brought to the original author's attention that the Justice Department pondered that question for quite some time, and the decision ultimately got thrown out on a technicality.
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I agree MS Office is better, but that's because it's been developed for much longer and the shear amount of money being invested in it,
OpenOffice = StarOffice, which has been around just as long as MS Office.
Not that Sun ever cared much about it.
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OpenOffice = StarOffice, which has been around just as long as MS Office.
I didn't know that, but smy point still stands; Star/Open Office hasn'r had the same investment as MS Office and it's a very good piece of software especially when taking this into consideration.
Not that Sun ever cared much about it.
I guess that's why they decided to open-source it.