Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: sime on 24 June 2005, 10:09
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Light blue touch paper, stand well back, let the debate begin...
Pronouncement the First: As a user-level operating system, Linux is a cruel and tawdry lie. Bigfoot will fly to your house and personally deliver a $30,000 tax refund before there's a Linux that can challenge Windows or MacOS in terms of usability. If anyone tells you otherwise, your only rebuttal should be to administer that thing that Moe used to do to Larry -- you know, where he'd grab Larry's nose with one hand and smack it down with the other.
Pronouncement the Second: None of that matters. Linux is still one of the best and most important OS's on the landscape.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/worktech/cst-fin-andy23.html
Later
Sime
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On Linux, you plug in a DVD burner, and -- nothing happens.
You go online, download what you think are the right drivers, and -- more nothing. If you ever get it up and running, it'll only be after conducting the sort of research and extended investigation that brought down Enron.
This bit I highly doubt. I could burn CDs right out of the box, and DVD shouldn't be harder (distros now have dvdrw-tools).
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Light blue touch paper, stand well back, let the debate begin...
Pronouncement the First: As a user-level operating system, Linux is a cruel and tawdry lie. Bigfoot will fly to your house and personally deliver a $30,000 tax refund before there's a Linux that can challenge Windows or MacOS in terms of usability. If anyone tells you otherwise, your only rebuttal should be to administer that thing that Moe used to do to Larry -- you know, where he'd grab Larry's nose with one hand and smack it down with the other.
Pronouncement the Second: None of that matters. Linux is still one of the best and most important OS's on the landscape.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/worktech/cst-fin-andy23.html
Later
Sime
agreed, a very user unfriendly OS indeed mostly only smart people from europe can use it because lots of people use it there and you can like ask your neighbor for help on it well it's not the case here.
Mr X
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On Linux, you plug in a DVD burner, and -- nothing happens.
You go online, download what you think are the right drivers, and -- more nothing. If you ever get it up and running, it'll only be after conducting the sort of research and extended investigation that brought down Enron.
Maybe with Slackware yes, but I once got a Mac OS style pop-up once on SuSE, telling me that it was going to install my freshly hooked up CD-ROM player.
While I hated SuSE's hardware management system (something with a Y), it proves that the above claim is right out false.
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Maybe with Slackware yes,
Not even with Slackware. I could burn CDs without any setup.
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Not even with Slackware. I could burn CDs without any setup.
I was talking about immediate hardware detection.
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I was talking about immediate hardware detection.
As was I.
I do remember having to tell setup that hdd=ide-scsi, but that's only if you use 2.4.
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agreed, a very user unfriendly OS indeed mostly only smart people from europe can use it because lots of people use it there and you can like ask your neighbor for help on it well it's not the case here.
Mr X
What distribution are you talking about?
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all the ones he's never tried presumably.
and that's all the comment you'll get out of me, if you want me to rise to the bait, it'll need to be more intelligently constructed bait than that, so called sime.
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The trick to getting good tech support with Linux is to troll.
If you ask, "how do I do X in linux?" you get "RTFM n00b!" in reply.
If you ask, "Linux sucks because it can't do X like another OS can!" you get PhD's bending over backwards with solutions.
trufax.
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New from Xerox,
trufax.
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The trick to getting good tech support with Linux is to troll.
If you ask, "how do I do X in linux?" you get "RTFM n00b!" in reply.
If you ask, "Linux sucks because it can't do X like another OS can!" you get PhD's bending over backwards with solutions.
trufax.
Soooooooooo true. I've seen a quote about this....
"Whenever you want information on the 'net, don't ask a question; just post a wrong answer."
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If you ask, "how do I do X in linux?" you get "RTFM n00b!" in reply.
Not at this forum.
And LOL @ KernelPanic.
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i'd agree with WMD there, it's got so you're more likely to get "fuck off you moron" in answer to an obviously wrong post.
incidentally, is this supposed to mean that this thread is a wrong answer seeking right answers?
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i'd agree with WMD there, it's got so you're more likely to get "fuck off you moron" in answer to an obviously wrong post.
We have MrX to blame for that.
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Linux beats Windows for usability for me. I've never used MacOS, and I don't plan on it.
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wel i use fedora cor 3 and it detected and setup my mouse on bootup. it has a build in keyboard cause of all the extra buttons. it was fine with it. recognises my dvd-ram drive and is quick at setting up hardware.
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When you buy a hard drive or a printer or another sort of peripheral, you plug it into any available port, and it just plain works. There might be a bit of setup required, but the OS will walk you through it, and it'll be up and running before that sweet New Technology Smell has dissipated.
The sad fact is that in Windows, this happens a hell of a lot less than they would lead you to believe. Most hardware requires some sort of setup.
For example, my Nikon Coolpix 4300, a fairly common camera. Plugged it into my Mac - mounted the drive, and opened iPhoto, ready to get the pictures. Plugged it into Fedora - mounted the drive. Plugged it into my parents' WinXP Media Center PC - add new hardware wizard showed up, attempting to walk me through the setup process. Even though it recognized what kind of camera it was, it still wanted to go through some sort of installation thing. I didn't complete the process, I just wanted to see what it was like.
Ergo, Windows is crappy. They try to do too much. Just recognize that it is a microharddrive of some sort and mount it. If there's a special photo program, launch it. Seriously, that's all the OS is supposed to do. If it can't, or won't, the OS is shit.