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Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Stryker on 16 July 2005, 01:24
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So, after some work (and a lot of money), http://illhostit.com now has its own hardware and is in a high quality datacenter.
So, now we're offering webhosting along with the usual free file hosting. You can check out the packages at http://illhostit.com/packages.php if you like.
The coupon code "90off" gives you 90% off your first month, and the coupon code "100family" gives you the family plan for free, forever (there's only 20 of those).
The coupon code "microsuck" gives you 15% off forever.
Now I have to hurry up and start making contributable posts before all the people that don't remember me consider me a spammer :/
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Don't worry, John, I remember you! :)
Welcome back!
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Here is what the homepage should look like, dont hurt me to bad just havin a little fun, Will defeintly use I'll Host it in future.
(http://illhostit.com/thumbnails/6617803794793281/illhostamd.JPG) (http://illhostit.com/files/6617803794793281/illhostamd.JPG)
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Opterons were considered, but in my experience Xeons do better for hosting. Now if I were to specialize in game servers, or other specialized tasks, I'd choose Opteron.
http://illhostit.com/sysinfo/
Just added that, shows some info.
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Quad Xeons, awesome. :)
BTW, what's /dev/md1 in relation to hard drives? (as seen on that page)
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BTW, what's /dev/md1 in relation to hard drives? (as seen on that page)
raid 1, with 2x 300gb drives
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Whoops, accidently double posted.
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nice
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The design of I'll Host It still looks like not much work has put into it.
A serious look at your lay-out can really help!
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So, after some work (and a lot of money), http://illhostit.com now has its own hardware and is in a high quality datacenter.
So, now we're offering webhosting along with the usual free file hosting. You can check out the packages at http://illhostit.com/packages.php if you like.
The coupon code "90off" gives you 90% off your first month, and the coupon code "100family" gives you the family plan for free, forever (there's only 20 of those).
The coupon code "microsuck" gives you 15% off forever.
Now I have to hurry up and start making contributable posts before all the people that don't remember me consider me a spammer :/
that site is dam-ass fast yo.
but- what type of speed can I download off of it? Can it max out my connection? Is there a file I can download off of it and test?
Mr X
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The design of I'll Host It still looks like not much work has put into it.
A serious look at your lay-out can really help!
Simplicity is the goal. I don't want to put 100s of 2x2 pixel graphics on there and slow everything down. People can still easily get to the file hosting service, like always... I want that to be really easy. And all of our other services are easily accessible, with low page transition times. I wasn't going for complicated.
that site is dam-ass fast yo.
but- what type of speed can I download off of it? Can it max out my connection? Is there a file I can download off of it and test?
Mr X
Your download speed really is affected by more than just the server and its network, it is also affected by your latency, the route your isp gives you to the server, and more.
Now, honestly to get the best performance a download accelerator always does the trick. It downloads from the server multiple times, using the bandwidth as effeciently as possible.
But, now that I've said that, http://illhostit.com/hdr.sh
I have a 6mbps in my home, and I typically download a file at 350kb/s without an accelerator. However, I can download 2 files at 350kb/s each. So I use an accelerator and get about 760kb/s.
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Simplicity is the goal. I don't want to put 100s of 2x2 pixel graphics on there and slow everything down. People can still easily get to the file hosting service, like always... I want that to be really easy. And all of our other services are easily accessible, with low page transition times. I wasn't going for complicated.
Your download speed really is affected by more than just the server and its network, it is also affected by your latency, the route your isp gives you to the server, and more.
Now, honestly to get the best performance a download accelerator always does the trick. It downloads from the server multiple times, using the bandwidth as effeciently as possible.
But, now that I've said that, http://illhostit.com/hdr.sh
I have a 6mbps in my home, and I typically download a file at 350kb/s without an accelerator. However, I can download 2 files at 350kb/s each. So I use an accelerator and get about 760kb/s.
I got 720KB/s without accelerator, and a wopping 973.5KB/s with Internet Download Manager (bar none the best download accel program)
nice server! ps- where is this geographically located? what are typically the least busyest times this server has so that I can test my speed with?
talk about wow you have the best server ever way to go!
Mr X
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The server is located with Peer1 in Seattle's Westin building, which is pretty much where the pacific northwest gets their internet from. Peer1 has multiple peering arrangements with ISPs and other internet companies to help insure they have the lowest latency possible, and that everyone gets the best route possible.
I suppose our busiest times are evening hours, but we have plenty of bandwidth so even when we are busiest there shouldn't be any slow down for you. You -might- get knocked down to the 300kb/s range if there's some large file thats extremely popular, but this hasn't happened yet.
I suppose the least busiest times would be between 1 and 2 am pacific time.
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great- I live just above seattle anyways.(canada, vancouver)
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I maxed out at 140k/sec. :(
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florida isn't exactly the closest state to washington. I believe in order to get to florida it would have to go through chicago or LA, there's no direct route, which would make your ping around 150ms, which isn't ideal for downloading.
Or is that the speed your isp gives you?
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My ISP claims to give me 1.5Mbps. The highest I've ever recorded is 154k/sec.
And I pinged illhostit.com and got 129ms.
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You understand that a 1.5mbps connection line will only let you download at about 150kb/s right? 1.5 mega bits, or 1536 kbps, 8 bits per byte would make it 192kb/s plus packet headers and such would put you around 150-160kb/s as the max for your connection.
I have a 6mbps line, and my max is about 760kb/s, and MrX has a 7mbps line apparently (from looking at his ISP's website, thats what it looks like)
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I got a top SPEED OF 40KBps:thumbdwn:, here is a screen shot of a c-net bandwith test.I have cox (http://httP://www.cox.com) high soeed internet.
[verwijderd door de beheerder]
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You understand that a 1.5mbps connection line will only let you download at about 150kb/s right?
Yes. And BellSouth sucks for it.
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You understand that a 1.5mbps connection line will only let you download at about 150kb/s right? 1.5 mega bits, or 1536 kbps, 8 bits per byte would make it 192kb/s plus packet headers and such would put you around 150-160kb/s as the max for your connection.
I have a 6mbps line, and my max is about 760kb/s, and MrX has a 7mbps line apparently (from looking at his ISP's website, thats what it looks like)
btw- I maxed out at 1.2MB/s (yes MEGABYTES!!) that was just a burst and with the help of Stryker's server I can reach my down cap which is 7Mbit and the analogx netstatlive bounces from 7000Kb/s to 9.3Mb/s .
Also, the shaw tech is going to be coming over on tuesday to fix my modem (connection issues when I fire up azereus bittorrent, I keep on getting 'disconnected from server' with opera, and aparently the modem has a bunch of errors, I will ask him to 'tweak' the speed if he can :)
This poor guy I know has dial-up down my street and it's so sad. He's always saying how good my connection is. Well, I just download stuff for him and then bring my harddisk to his house and well, that's quicker than him downloading it at 4-6KB/s ! haha
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Hows about postin' this on a big ass site like BBR/DSLR? Try in http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/hotmembers I may let you use my account if you need to. I've been there for a few years so it wont look so much like a day one spammer if you have over 1100 posts.
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That's really whats stopping me from advertising on various forums, is I don't do forums very much and don't exactly have a high post count. I have the highest here actually. I'll probably get in touch with you in a few days, got some stuff I need to take care of first.
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I am connected with a 300 baud accoustic coupler.
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I am connected with a 300 baud accoustic coupler.
that must be the connection between your brain and your body.
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i thought most People have a 1GHz Hyper Transport link to their bodies from their brain.
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Simplicity is the goal. I don't want to put 100s of 2x2 pixel graphics on there and slow everything down. People can still easily get to the file hosting service, like always... I want that to be really easy. And all of our other services are easily accessible, with low page transition times. I wasn't going for complicated.
I actually believe your lay-out is way too complicated at the moment. Dumb it down a bit (Gnome / GetFirefox.com style).
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i thought most People have a 1GHz Hyper Transport link to their bodies from their brain.
correct. most people do, just except kintaro
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There is one thing missing to conclude Mr X's theory.
I have no brain.
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I have no brain.
Kintaro, if you're transposing yourself and X again, then you need help.
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stryker, i have availed myself of a family plan, but now i have a regret. i put in a domain name that it looks like i cannot really sort out, being that it's a dyndns one. if i register a "real" domain name, can i in some way change my domain name details with illhostit to use the new dmain name? i suppose i would point the domain name at the illhostit servers, but i would need to update the illhostit records as well, yes?
i know not much about this
should i have submitted this as a support ticket? i now feel a bit dim...
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stryker, i have availed myself of a family plan, but now i have a regret. i put in a domain name that it looks like i cannot really sort out, being that it's a dyndns one. if i register a "real" domain name, can i in some way change my domain name details with illhostit to use the new dmain name? i suppose i would point the domain name at the illhostit servers, but i would need to update the illhostit records as well, yes?
i know not much about this
should i have submitted this as a support ticket? i now feel a bit dim...
I recommend contacting me either through live support or a support ticket to sort this out, I don't want to be posting your account details on a public forums.
If you are using a dynamic dns, you can simply point your hostname to 64.34.38.30.
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ok, i just feel a bit like i am wasting time, if i raise a support ticket, just my personal gripe.
but that's what i will do, thank you for your response!
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ok, i just feel a bit like i am wasting time, if i raise a support ticket, just my personal gripe.
but that's what i will do, thank you for your response!
calumcarlyle.kicks-ass.net is pointing to 64.34.37.163 and should be pointing to 64.34.38.30.
64.34.37.163 and 64.34.37.164 are for your nameservers, if you have a real domain. The service isn't really meant for a subdomain through another company, but it'll work still. Just point it to 64.34.38.30.
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stryker: i tried that live help thing, it never worked i was waiting for a responce from the server for to long and it just didnt work. does it work now?
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stryker: i tried that live help thing, it never worked i was waiting for a responce from the server for to long and it just didnt work. does it work now?
I noticed that, I saw you trying to connect. What browser do you use? I've only tested it with Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Safari
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Opera 8 . i can also report the error page to opera support people, incase it uses some proprietary interface. You should use a cgi thing instead, because those even work with ancient NetPositive on BeOS.
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Opera 8
Just outof interest, do you use BeOS atall?
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All it uses is php. It should support any web browser. I have no idea why it wouldn't work with opera. But, live support isn't the only available option, and I like this software so I don't plan to switch. Thanks for letting me know though, I'll look into it.
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Just a few updates:
Demo available from packages page
New support option: skype
New support option: live chat
New support option: AOL Instant Messenger
Coupon code "august" (25% off any plan forever, limited time offer)
PostgreSQL now available
Reverse DNS available on request for dedicated IPs
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Opterons were considered, but in my experience Xeons do better for hosting. Now if I were to specialize in game servers, or other specialized tasks, I'd choose Opteron.
http://illhostit.com/sysinfo/ (http://illhostit.com/sysinfo/)
Just added that, shows some info.
All of the Opteron vs Xeon benchmarks I've seen have shown the Opteron wiping the floor agianst the Xeon in Apache/mysql benchmarks.
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Remember, benchmarks are only accurate if they support your preconceived notions.
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Remember, benchmarks are only accurate if they support your preconceived notions.
Let me put it this way. I've never seen a benchmark that showed the Xeon beating the Opteron in databse or web serving...
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030422/opteron-17.html#database_test (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030422/opteron-17.html#database_test%20)
http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/07/msg00286.html (http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/07/msg00286.html)
http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=1982&p=6 (http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=1982&p=6)
http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2163&p=2 (http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2163&p=2)
I happen to have access to a dual Xeon and Dual Opteron box at work. They both run Win2k3, so I should run webbench and benchmark IIS6/MSSQL on them for kicks.
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More ownage....
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000279 (http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000279)
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000280 (http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000280)
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000283 (http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000283)
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Don't get me wrong here though. It's not like using Xeon server will put you out of business. The difference in performance might not be that signifigant in the real world.
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I was just making a joke at how most peoplr treat benchmarks.
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It appears my sarcasm detector needs some adjusting. :D
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Strykers server is one of the fastest I have hosted with. I dont care about benchmarks, the real world results are far more important. I have hosted with several of the large providers and have to say I am the most pleased with strykers setup.
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Strykers server is one of the fastest I have hosted with. I dont care about benchmarks, the real world results are far more important. I have hosted with several of the large providers and have to say I am the most pleased with strykers setup.
Like, I said there's nothing wrong with Xeon setup. The benchmarks simple point to the fact that Opterons servers might be able to handle more cusomers per box than Xeon servers.
Say for example, a dual proc Xeon server that costs $5000.00 can host around 200-400 customer accounts. It may be that an Opteron box of the same price would be able to hold 300-500 customer accounts. This would lead to higher profits.
I should check out that webhostingtalk forums and see what people have to say.
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It also depends on the admins themselves. I dont care how good your tools are, if you can't use them properly, they are shit.
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I should check out that webhostingtalk forums and see what people have to say.
Well that was a bad idea. I dug up a couple of Xeon vs Opteron threads and they were giant flame wars between Intel and AMD fanboys - both sides saying "I run a bunch of servers with "_X" processors and they beat "_Y" processors hands down!
Oh well.