Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: voidmain on 26 June 2002, 06:38
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http://www.theregus.com/content/4/25378.html (http://www.theregus.com/content/4/25378.html)
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Pretty soon, we'll have mod chips for PCs. Thanks Microsoft!
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One word "Hackers". What have we learnt? Everytime a new "uncrackable" security is developed, some hacker breaks it. Now imagine the concept here. Hackers want to face the ultimate(well ego wise anyways, it is MS after all) challenge, defeat Microsoft's new system. Some of them also hack to expose how "unsafe" the internet and computer really are. Imagine the horrible PR, Microsoft controlled "dictatorship" is STILL not secure. (http://smile.gif)
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Actually this should have been Part II:
http://www.theregus.com/content/3/25377.html (http://www.theregus.com/content/3/25377.html)
Intel, AMD, and Microsoft teaming up to ruin our lives. The problem that they are all trying to correct is *solely* Microsoft's problem. Get rid of Microsoft, problem gone. Geez!! I guess it's *really* time to get a Mac!
[ June 25, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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Worse, it didn't even work properly. It was very easy to crack. Intel withdrew the scheme in April 2000, humbled temporarily.
Hmmm isn't this a company who actually makes high quality, reliable and powerful chips? Now just consider Microsoft who can't do this for their software, does Pallidum even stand a chance?
Teh h4x0r army shall save us all! ;)
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They do got ALOT of supporters, I mean what if something becomes too widespread too quickly to outhack it? Perhaps the US government might find this Palladium stuff to be grounds for sueing?
Hopefully the media will have a hayday on it, too much potential for controvesy.
It's a scary situation, luckily with Microsoft at the helm...
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I don't see how they can do this without the non-x86 chip manufacturers also getting on board. I can't imagine it happening, not without a HUUUUUGE battle! What about programmers? Are they going to have to pay M$ for every new program they write if they want to be able to distribute their program? Fuck those arrogant bastards is all I have to say!!
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And I suppose this will be the only supported operating system:
http://www.theregus.com/content/4/25369.html (http://www.theregus.com/content/4/25369.html)
<sarcasm>Oh, I can't wait!</sarcasm>
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So there IS something after XP. Ok well I have's two theories here.
A:Microsoft is predictable as usual.
B:Microsoft tries to take away some of the ammunition that the Anti-MS community has, by making the current "ammunition" invalid. This would be accomplished by fixing alot of the crap stuff in Windows.
So you'd have a Windows OS that rarely crashes, is not a resource hog, secure, low on bugs, and is fast. At the same time it still has MS's other "behind the scenes" stuff.
Without this ammunition you no longer have an incentive for the "semi-average" Wind0ze user to switch to Linux.
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HA! Fat chance... It's all the more reason to switch away from M$. They spell it out that all of the products people spending money on now will be obsolete. It's a never ending cycle that ends with a trainload of money heading for Redmond, WA.
[ June 26, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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Well if your positive about "fat chance", then MS is no longer such a threat. Winning is rather hard if you can actually convert individuals to NON-MS OS's. It is only possible to convert people if they have REAL reasons to switch. Spyware, Logging, and tracking sound theoretical and paranoid to most people. Bad security, crashing, resource hogging, bugginess and lack of speed COMBINED INTO ONE is shitloads of PROVEABLE incentives to switch from Windows.
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if this really takes off, I'm getting a mac for sure .....
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i just read the article, i think microsoft has learned of the RIAA's tactics. fuck them all, fuck them all in the asshole with a rubber dick and break it off and beat them with it. owell. what about backwards compatiblity. i want off of this x86 boat. its a *stinking* ship. the only hope we have is non x86 architicture. x86 is microsofts realm. ppc is apples realm. about how much would an ethernet addapter cost for a powerbook 1400. i just read even more. the psychotic rush is on again, people do *not* controll me. too bad someone can't like gank the windows source code of there servers/*i don't care if it's illagal, and i have heard that it has been done i used to be a 1337 w4r3rz k155y*/
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opinion - it's all bullshit.
we will have to wait and see what the sociopolitical majority of today's social climate will produce in reaction to all this stuff which is totally up in the air as of now.
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1. i can't see a scenario where windows is the only system, there's a shitload of actual companies with money who are making systems, as well as the open source stuff (which is pretty popular just the same).
2. there's nothing new here, it's all failed propositions with newer, better advertising, packaged in a different box. In this country our prime minister just had to go and call a press conference to say he was no longer going to rely on spindoctoring to further his position, and people immediately said his speech was spindoctoring. Will people accept what they are told to accept just because of advertising?
3. People are pretty bland, and also apathetic. If it works ok for them, they will not change it for fear of breaking it. At the moment, not changing it means allowing somebody else to be in charge of their software. This is a GOOD THING to them as they don't need to know all that 'difficult technical stuff' to work their machine (ie write letters and go on the internet).
4. People do not give a shit if their privacy is compromised so long as they don't see it, and even then they can rationalise it away unless they are losing something of fairly substantial value (because they fear change, see 3.). If some person starts getting tons of spam to an email address that he has not signed up on any lists with, he will not connect it, in most cases, with some program he uses to play videos which incidentally connects to the internet to up/download "certificates" and "playlist information".
Basically we will have to see what happens. My prediction is this regarding all this upcoming bullshit:
Some morons will just love it. A greater proportion of morons will just accept it, while retaining some formless and groundless scepticism. Many normal people will be suspicious of it to the point where they try to learn about the alternatives (either buy a mac or go the hard way), and many will get frustrated and go back to "windows longinthetooth pallaver edition" or whatever, due to no alternative system being as user friendly as MacOSX, a point i address elsewhere. Sadly the people that do give a shit are already using alternative technology. There's no way for them to use Microsoft's (and intel's) products any less than they already do.
The end result: many people will use the new bullshit, it will become a defacto standard, but other defacto standards will emerge, and enough people will not fall for the bullshit as to keep any one thing from becoming a true monopoly, just like every other time something like this has happened in the machines/information technology industry.
[ June 26, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]
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I have to respectfully disagree. I am pretty hard headed but I have finally realized that you can never underestimate M$. It is my belief that if we "wait and see what happens" it will be too late. We have to jump on it now, be relentless, and pound their asses back into the hole in the ground from which they came. Educating the people is what is needed.
[ June 26, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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destroy them...
dammit... when uploading my files to egao.com they somehow got errors in them.... imagine a huge nuclear explosion here.
[ June 26, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]
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Originally posted by VoidMain:
I have to respectfully disagree. I am pretty hard headed but I have finally realized that you can never underestimate M$. It is my belief that if we "wait and see what happens" it will be too late. We have to jump on it now, be relentless, and pound their asses back into the hole in the ground from which they came. Educating the people is what is needed.
Au contraire, i don't think you are disagreeing with me because i agree with everything you just said.
Actually while the observer in me will be waiting to see what happens, the opinionated bastard in me will be trying to slyly convert the world.
As you have said before though, they give with one hand and shoot themselves in the foot with the other. (i'm paraphrasing).
It may take more than a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head to stop Bob, but will it take more than that to stop Microsoft? or will they do our work for us?
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/*i don't care if it's illagal, and i have heard that it has been done i used to be a 1337 w4r3rz k155y*/
Being one of those is 1000 times better then being a stupid internet newbie who gets raped by the s(ript k1|)|)ies. (http://smile.gif)
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not something to strive for though in the larger scheme of things...
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Originally posted by lazygamer:
Hopefully the media will have a hayday on it, too much potential for controvesy.
It's a scary situation, luckily with Microsoft at the helm...
ms at the helm indeed...
and as for the media, they own them. AOL-TIME WARNER, MS-NBC, etc.
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Hmmm damn, MS is a monster.
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not something to strive for though in the larger scheme of things...
I suppose. There's two types of script kiddies. Those who are stupid dummies who don't know shit, and those who are only script kiddies because they haven't learn enough yet to become a REAL hacker. Although they are still very interested in WHY they can do all this user friendly h4x0ring stuff. (http://smile.gif)
What would you call a hacker who can't program anything, but knows why and how the net, the phonelines, windows, his hacker programs work? A respectable Script kiddy? ;)
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as for real hacking i have three wonderful friends,
nmap -sS -O instert ip here
nmblookup -A instert ip here
and the wonderful smbclient, ill leave that to you to figure out.