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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Xeen on 28 October 2003, 05:21
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Micro$loth today distributed and demonstrated Longhorn build 4051 to anyone who cared enough to be at their annual PDC thing. Paul Thurrott, editor of wininformant.com and winsupersite.com, and one of MS's most brainwashed customers ever, had this to say about Longhorn 4051:
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Longhorn is going to rock, and we're only disappointed that the build we got doesn't show this system's best features off effectively. The transparent window effects--called glass windows, appropriately enough--are beautiful. The ability to embed video and any other kind of media into documents, apps, and anything else you can think off--even small previews you see when you mouse-over a scrollbar--are just incredible, surpassing anything on any system available today (yes, including Mac OS X Panther). The visuals in Longhorn are just going to blow you away,
In my opinion, Longhorn just got more uglier. Check out his galleries:
Part1 (http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/longhorn_4051_01.asp)
part2 (http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/longhorn_4051_02.asp)
part3 (http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/longhorn_4051_03.asp)
My biggest concern is that sidepar piece of shit. What the fuck is its point except to hog memory and desktop space? And who the fuck wants that ugly looking analog clock?
[ October 27, 2003: Message edited by: xeen ]
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The visuals in Longhorn are just going to blow you away
Remove the last two words and you're right on, skippy!
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There's one thing that bothers me.. Where did the icons go in the top of the windows? And what does the "star" button do? :\
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Originally posted by anphanax:
There's one thing that bothers me.. Where did the icons go in the top of the windows? And what does the "star" button do? :\
THE STAR IS A SOVIET EMBLEM! MICROSOFT IS LED BY COMMIES!!! THEY ARE GOING TO CONTROL US!!!!!
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33620.html (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33620.html)
There is also going to be a new presentation technology, code-named Avalon, which will be the foundation for the Longhorn shell. The XML-based graphics and presentation engine will provide Longhorn with a completely different, Apple-like transparent look and a handy taskbar to the right of the screen.
Just like Apple with OS X 10 eh? My god.
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This replaces the system tray bar and also augments it with new options, including RSS feeds, a big (very big) clock and a Who is in my neighborhood service, informing users about who is in the vicinity with a PDA, laptop or smartphone.
What bluetooth? What is this bullshit there trying to palm off as their own now. I must admit the RSS feeds sounds cool.
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A major change for Windows will be WinFS. Based on the relational database Yukon, this next generation of data storage will provide Longhorn with vastly improved ways to find, relate and act on information. Documents on the hard disk or on the company network, for instance, can be sorted by author and those documents are presented as if they are in a single folder, or as "stacks" based on another single common attribute.
Hands up who thinks stacks sounds remarkably like "piles"?
Hands up who thinks Apple and M$ are on a collision course with this (IP laws being what they are in the USA)?
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I've got dipshit classmates showing off that they downloaded longhorn off some porn warez site.
Pffft I dissed him and he just said I was jealous.
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i got a couple fags like those.....
sitting around downloaidng msn bots.... fucking idiots call themselves hackers
i laugh my asses off when they are having 'hacker' discussions. fuck i hated those script kiddies back in the windows days. but not anymore!
anyways, back to topic: longhorn's gonna suck! i wouldn't waste my bandwidth downloading it or my cd copying it from someone else.
EDIT: i was just informed that the star means somethng a lot worse(that depends on how u look @ it though). the five pointed star is used by satanists!! billy boy likes satan!!!
but then again, that might not come as too big a surprise to many ppl!
[ October 28, 2003: Message edited by: Commander ]
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Originally posted by xeen:
My biggest concern is that sidepar piece of shit. What the fuck is its point except to hog memory and desktop space? And who the fuck wants that ugly looking analog clock?
Probably can't disable it, either.
[ October 28, 2003: Message edited by: The Anti-Microsoft ]
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Yes, I was about to say the same thing. On all the Longhorn shots the big ass clock has been the white elephant everyone has faild to mention.
What's the deal with the goddam clock? Why did M$ think having a lifesized analogue wallclock was a good choice for an OS?
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This comes from wininformant.com's comments section in the PDC article:
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B.K.
- Submitted On: October 28, 2003
Paul, sorry man, but nobody cares sqaut about Longhorn. By the time that bloated, ugly, slow POS comes around, Macs will be years ahead (as they already are), and Linux will be taking over the desktop. Maybe you should start learning some Linux instead of listening to idiots brag about their new products that are only eye-candy with features stolen from other OSes.
Editor's note: Sorry, but the 7000 people rushing the stage to see it two years early suggests otherwise. --Paul
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Don't be stupid. I'm sure you'll be able to disable the beastly looking thing on the right side of the screen. In fact, I bet you'll be able to move it all over the place, and perhaps un-dock it as it shows in this image: Un-dockable clock (while magnified) (http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcase/longhorn_4051_036.jpg)
Also, it seems for those that are hard of vision, you'll be able to magnify the clock as well, meaning i'm sure you'll be able to make it smaller. Or better yet, kill the thing all together.
As far as "hogging memory" goes, running a clock -hardly- takes any memory.
Don't get me wrong, it will have its downsides, but you can at least come up with a few useful ones that microsoft's return customers will actually view as a downside.
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quote:B.K.
- Submitted On: October 28, 2003
Paul, sorry man, but nobody cares sqaut about Longhorn. By the time that bloated, ugly, slow POS comes around, Macs will be years ahead (as they already are), and Linux will be taking over the desktop. Maybe you should start learning some Linux instead of listening to idiots brag about their new products that are only eye-candy with features stolen from other OSes.
Editor's note: Sorry, but the 7000 people rushing the stage to see it two years early suggests otherwise. --Paul
Oh, sure. THAT editor's note makes a lot of sense. Sounds to me that this moron is impressed with the fact Micropiss will be releasing its own version of OS-X roughly 4 YEARS AFTER Apple did. And 7,000 people "rushing the stage"? Out of how many users, a couple hundred million? Speaking in percentages, I would say that equates to exactly no interest at all. What a dork.
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When was the last big linux debut, and how many people showed up then?
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Well I must say, that's pretty damn ugly. I hope Linux is far enough along in 2005-6, 'cause I'm not buying this shit.
And, it's easily a OSX ripoff. And somehow, OSX is far prettier. :gawking:
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Uh. I can't recall any weak attempts to buy peoples interest in a Linux distro by having a software release party (or wherever 7000 people rushed the stage :rolleyes: ). Maybe because they are more concerned with the software than with sales, who knows. I have not read a single thing about longhorn that interests me. All the attention seems to be on how it looks, which, as we all know, is what defines what an os is. I'd be more interested to see how they are going to fuck up my data with their new winFS. If all info is accesible from all software, what is going to stop several millions of dollars worth of CAD files from being corrupted when IE crashes? Based on the info i have seen and read, WinFS has the potential to be a disaster bigger than embedding a browser into the os. Back to looks, someone at MS forgot their color theory courses. Too much blue is a bad thing. A little blue is good. A clean, uncluttered interface is good. The monstrosity i see looking at longhorn gives me a headache :(
ANd its not going to be out for almost 2 years? Fuck. OSX and Linux will be lightyears ahead.
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QUOTE: Don't be stupid. I'm sure you'll be able to disable the beastly looking thing on the right side of the screen. In fact, I bet you'll be able to move it all over the place, and perhaps un-dock it as it shows in this image: Un-dockable clock (while magnified)
Accusing people of being stupid is not a wise move, especially as they're not following the monopoly that Gates is running with Windows. And I hardly think that the ability to move a graphical element all over the place as you suggest is ground-breaking stuff, but then again I'm not new to all this computers lark as most people who use Windows will be.
Also, it seems for those that are hard of vision, you'll be able to magnify the clock as well, meaning i'm sure you'll be able to make it smaller. Or better yet, kill the thing all together.
Kill the thing from the screen, but like a lot of Windows software (lightwave excepted of course) it runs in the background whether you want it to or not, unless you kill the process, but knowing Microsoft's insistence on integration, doing something like that will make the system even more unstable than it already is.
As far as "hogging memory" goes, running a clock -hardly- takes any memory.
Under ordinary circumstances, quite correct. I remember AmigaOS being able to do several things at once (Photogenics, DeluxePaint, Lightwave3.5 etc) using only 32 megs of RAM and a 40MHz processor, and it was able to do so rather quickly in comparison to a 486 DX2-66 at the time with the same amount of RAM.
However, this is a Windows app developed by the same company as the OS itself, and therefore subject to the same bad case of bloating as the OS itself, and no doubt it will become a core piece of the OS, just like IE has become (in blatant defiance of monopoly ruling).
Don't get me wrong, it will have its downsides, but you can at least come up with a few useful ones that microsoft's return customers will actually view as a downside.
There you have a point. It's unlikely that people will be able to see past Microsoft's advertising and make an informed choice.
EDIT: And I also forgot to mention the potential for disaster that WinFS is likely to expose to the novice user in security of their files. Notice ho they're trying to change or hide how the underlying Filesystem works and categorising things as information? No more searching for files on your HArd Drive by navigating directories/folders/drawers or whatever you call them on any particular OS. Of course people could get too used to this and then not worry about the hidden and "system" or Secret files as I prefer to call them, that could potentially contain personal and sensitive data that could be picked up by hackers or by MS themselves. Anyone want to call me paranoid? Go right ahead but that'll only prove my point (especially if no-one's willing to investigate this possibility themselves).
[ December 05, 2003: Message edited by: Feet Pete ]