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Title: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: solo on 10 August 2005, 02:58
Slashdot posted about a fellow who used WINE to pass the WGA test and downloaded DX9. Since then Microsoft seems to have fixed the error halfway, as my WINE succeeds and the page says validated, but it then asks to validate again. Could be firefox not dealing with the IE-centric crap that is microsoft.com though.

A lot of people raised the question: wtf is GenuineCheck.exe actually *doing* if a completely different implementation of the Windows API can pass, even though they expect real versions of Windows which are pirated to be disallowed.

EDIT: Btw, I'm back at MES baby! Heard Refalm's in charge now, great news!
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: TB on 10 August 2005, 15:18
It doesn't really matter what Genuine Advantage does, since it's already been cracked:

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html

Yep, this whole DRM thing really works. [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: solo on 11 August 2005, 01:53
All Microsoft ever does with DRM is seperate themselves from their users just a little bit more. The legal users are bothered, the illegal users crack it, the alternative OS users laugh.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Jenda on 11 August 2005, 18:15
For us not-so-educated ones: What is MS Genuine Advantage?
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: piratePenguin on 11 August 2005, 18:37
Quote from: Jenda
For us not-so-educated ones: What is MS Genuine Advantage?
It's a (new) program in Windows XP and Vista to prevent piracy (yea right). It's run anytime you try to update, and if it fails it asks you for the source of the pirate software and if you cooperate and tell them, then you get updates (or do you get a free copy of Windows? I dunno.). Otherwise, you don't.

That's my knowledge of it anyhow.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: MarathoN on 11 August 2005, 23:29
When I tried to update stuff like DirectX on Windows 2000 I got the WGA crap too. :(
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: hm_murdock on 11 August 2005, 23:42
If you change your PID or CD Key to a randomized one, apparently WGA is happy with it.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Jenda on 12 August 2005, 00:06
Thanks, pP. Well, as long as they get screwed over, I'm happy with it. As long as poor Windozers are annoyed... the better for the future of FLOSS.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: skyman8081 on 12 August 2005, 01:08
This is a no-win scenario for MS, at least for you guys.

Allow WINE: "lolz, M$ sux, they let WINE through"
Deny WINE: "zomg! M$ sux! they blocked WINE from windows update!"
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: CrazyOne on 12 August 2005, 01:51
There is an "Windows update Validaiton Bypass" on the net !!!
And its working .:cool:
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Orethrius on 12 August 2005, 02:13
Quote from: skyman8081
This is a no-win scenario for MS, at least for you guys.

Allow WINE: "lolz, M$ sux, they let WINE through"
Deny WINE: "zomg! M$ sux! they blocked WINE from windows update!"

You realize that they'd have been better off using Ruby, PHP, ASP, anything but JavaScript?  If that kind of security is all Windows users have to look forward to, then I'm glad I switched when I did.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: jtpenrod on 13 August 2005, 06:08
Quote

This is a no-win scenario for MS, at least for you guys.

Allow WINE: "lolz, M$ sux, they let WINE through"
Deny WINE: "zomg! M$ sux! they blocked WINE from windows update!"


Of course. Kinda like the deal that Spyglass signed with MS: Spyglass gets a percentage of each copy of Mosaic sold with Win 95, and MS turns around and gives it away. No sales; zero $$$ regardless of percentage.

:D
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Refalm on 13 August 2005, 09:52
Quote from: CrazyOne
There is an "Windows update Validaiton Bypass" on the net !!!
And its working .:cool:

Easily done by disabling some ActiveX components in Internet Explorer.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 13 August 2005, 15:43
That also has the added advantage of makeing IE more secure just in case you need to use it.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Jenda on 20 August 2005, 13:35
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
That also has the added advantage of makeing IE more secure just in case you need to use it.

 Not that that's ever gonna happen - or not on my computer anyway.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: passive wind on 29 August 2005, 17:47
Internet Explorer was good until Version 7.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 29 August 2005, 18:43
What IE 7?

That's still in beta phase and if it's worse than IE 6, (which I wouldn't rule out anyway) it's most likely because you've tested the beta version which obviously isn't finished so you shouldn't expect anything great.
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: passive wind on 29 August 2005, 19:23
Asshole Likcing Cunt Machine
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Lead Head on 29 August 2005, 19:35
EDIT
Title: Re: WINE passes Windows Genuine Advantage
Post by: Kintaro on 1 September 2005, 17:24
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