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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: DavidB on 22 August 2005, 07:21

Title: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: DavidB on 22 August 2005, 07:21
The New York Times has a lengthy article about Seattle's Discovery Institute (http://www.discovery.org), which I have long described as a club for corporate creationists. Bill Gates has reportedly been funding the Institute.

That doesn't surprise me. The Discovery Club's members include Dick Spady, Washington State's #1 charter schools advocate. When Bill Gates lost his big monopoly during the Clinton administration, he was immediately interviewed by 60 Minutes at a Dick's Drive In just blocks from where I live. That's right - Dick Spady owns a fast food chain here in Seattle.

I don't have time to discuss the Discovery Institute in great detail right now. Suffice it to say that it's as dangerous and disgusting as it is bizarre.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/national/21evolve.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5094&en=0bd235262066da5c&hp&ex=1124683200&partner=homepage
http://www.americablog.org/
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Laukev7 on 22 August 2005, 07:40
'Liberation Theology'? Hezbollah? What does that have to do with science? Politics doesn't belong on scientific publications, let alone religion!
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: skyman8081 on 22 August 2005, 08:04
You're ridiculing him over his support of his religious beliefs.

Thats a new low, even for you.
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: DavidB on 22 August 2005, 08:19
Quote from: skyman8081
You're ridiculing him over his support of his religious beliefs.

Thats a new low, even for you.

WHAT religious beliefs???
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Laukev7 on 22 August 2005, 08:30
Quote from: skyman8081
You're ridiculing him over his support of his religious beliefs.

Thats a new low, even for you.

WTF are you talking about? Lobbying for disguising biblical mythology as science has nothing to do with religious belief. Aren't you the first one to complain when people let their opinions on things like environmental issues distort science?
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Orethrius on 22 August 2005, 08:55
I just think it's funny as hell that "mainstream scientists," as the article put it, agree that there's no debate to be had.  If that were true, why the problem with teaching the two viewpoints side-by-side in the first place?  Although I can certainly see the potential for rampant corruption like in the witch-trial days...
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Laukev7 on 22 August 2005, 09:06
I wonder if they would allow evolution to be taught side-by-side with creationism in churches.
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Refalm on 22 August 2005, 10:01
It scares me that some people who run our country believe this kind of pseudo-science.

It shows that politicians today use intelligent design to be in the middle ground of the whole evolution vs. creationism battle, even if it means they are plain wrong.
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Laukev7 on 22 August 2005, 10:04
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It scares me that some people who run our country believe this kind of pseudo-science.


Even in Netherlands? :eek:
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Refalm on 22 August 2005, 10:12
Quote from: Laukev7
Even in Netherlands? :eek:

Most of us (not me) voted for the Christian Democrats in the hope that they could save our degrading economy, after the fall of the internet hype.

Of course, we're all pissed off at them now, and if there was a vote now, the labour party would win.
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: MarathoN on 25 August 2005, 00:04
Labour is the Workers Party, right?
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Kintaro on 25 August 2005, 00:32
Both the major parties in Australia are fucked. Actually now we have a single party with every seat in the Senate, nice eh?

Since I will be able to vote at the 2007 election, I will probably vote for the Democrat party, which is a very small party.

I cannot be fucked explaining australia's hoopy politics.
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: MarathoN on 25 August 2005, 02:22
Seems crazy, just by reading that. :eek:
Title: Re: The Discovery Institute: Microsoft's Intelligent Design Subsidiary
Post by: Kintaro on 1 September 2005, 17:25
Sieg Heil To Fuhrer Howard!!!!!11111