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Title: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: toadlife on 29 August 2005, 06:37
Discuss (http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropical/?from=wxcenter_news).
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 29 August 2005, 11:08
I wonder if the US will ever do their bit to cut pollution and reduce the affect they're having on global warming. Because if they don't they're going to be pelted with motherfuckers more often and there gonna get bigger too.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: skyman8081 on 29 August 2005, 17:04
It's not the major, developed countries that put out the most pollution.  It's the less developed ones.

Remember, correlation != causation
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: passive wind on 29 August 2005, 17:37
I think that the global economy should be put ahead of environment because I feel that the economy could effect more people in the now. However the environment has been tried and tested and proven to repair even when it is at its worst. I think we should change nothing and just let technology do the rest.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Refalm on 29 August 2005, 17:58
Quote from: passive wind
I think that the global economy should be put ahead of environment because I feel that the economy could effect more people in the now. However the environment has been tried and tested and proven to repair even when it is at its worst. I think we should change nothing and just let technology do the rest.

It takes years for fossil fuels to be created in such a large scale as oil or cole.
Also, rain forests aren't going to grow back fast and easily. People who are now 2 years old are going to experience shortages in fuel and maybe even water.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: passive wind on 29 August 2005, 18:01
Quote from: Refalm
It takes years for fossil fuels to be created in such a large scale as oil or cole.
Also, rain forests aren't going to grow back fast and easily. People who are now 2 years old are going to experience shortages in fuel and maybe even water.


Yes well really there will be more water for all of us when the icecaps melt, and bigger beaches. I really don't see a problem. It is not that hard to plant trees. We can repair what we are doing.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Kintaro on 29 August 2005, 18:04
What about all the people that die in the interrum?
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: passive wind on 29 August 2005, 18:05
Well really we need it, the world is too overpopulated. It would be better for the economy if roughly 5 billion people were killed.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Lead Head on 29 August 2005, 18:07
EDIT
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: passive wind on 29 August 2005, 18:11
fuckslutface
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Lead Head on 29 August 2005, 18:37
what do you care if i edit my own post?
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: piratePenguin on 29 August 2005, 18:45
Quote from: passive wind
Well really we need it, the world is too overpopulated. It would be better for the economy if roughly 5 billion people were killed.
Is that all you care about? The economy?

EDIT: I did present a suggestion here that this guy kills himself (because it'd be good for the economy), but I really don't want that, so I replaced it with this notice. Now he might see my point, and I can't be blamed if he does kill himself.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: toadlife on 29 August 2005, 19:11
Oh come on guys...stop with the "GLOBAL WARMING CAUSED THIS" crap.  This is only the fourth largest hurricane on record. Much bigger ones have hit the US this century.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Kintaro on 29 August 2005, 19:13
Global Warming is a problem, but I doubt is related to hurricanes.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 29 August 2005, 19:16
Hurricanes form when the sea temperature rises above a certain point (I can't remember what that is) so if the sea gets warmer due to global warming we'll have more hurricanes for sure.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: passive wind on 29 August 2005, 19:20
Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt Cunt
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Kintaro on 29 August 2005, 19:49
In meteorology, a tropical cyclone (or tropical disturbance, tropical depression, tropical storm, typhoon, or hurricane, depending on strength and location) is a type of low pressure system which generally forms in the tropics. While they can be highly destructive, tropical cyclones are an important part of the atmospheric circulation system, which moves heat from the equatorial region toward the higher latitudes.

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Worldwide, tropical cyclone activity peaks in late summer when water temperatures are warmest. However, each particular basin has its own seasonal patterns.

In the North Atlantic, a distinct hurricane season occurs from June 1 to November 30, sharply peaking from late August through September. The statistical peak of the North Atlantic hurricane season is September 10. The Northeast Pacific has a broader period of activity, but in a similar timeframe to the Atlantic. The Northwest Pacific sees tropical cyclones year-round, with a minimum in February and a peak in early September. In the North Indian basin, storms are most common from April to December, with peaks in May and November.

In the Southern Hemisphere, tropical cyclone activity begins in late October and ends in May. Southern Hemisphere activity peaks in mid-February to early March.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: worker201 on 29 August 2005, 23:53
Probably be the best thing that ever happened to New Orleans.  Unfortunately, 17 hours later, it looks like New Orleans has survived.

I spent a couple weeks down there last August on business.  It is a kinda scary city.  There's this constant aura of menace anytime you get near the lake or the river.  It's like the water is a tiger in the jungle, just waiting for the right moment to devour the city.  Every time it rains, you think "is this gonna be the one?"

Certain parts of New Orleans are beautiful, and if you are the kind of girl who likes to show your tits, it would probably be a fun city.  And damn, some of the best food I have ever eaten in my life, and some of the best beer too (Blackened Voodoo Lager).  But I don't want to spend too much time there - it just feels wrong.  Kinda like walking down that street in Dallas past the grassy knoll and the book repository.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: worker201 on 29 August 2005, 23:58
For the record, the most immediate effects of global warming will be more severe weather.  Or rather, more severe weather in different places.  The Pacific Northwest may get drier, SoCal could get wetter, the rain shadow of the Rockies could extend past the Mississippi river, and so on.  That's just in the US.  An increase in atmospheric heating at the equator will cause the Hadley cells that influence our weather patterns to shift, changing environmental conditions all over the globe.  Indian monsoons might be longer, hurricane season in the Gulf of Mexico might be shorter, and it might rain more in Algeria.  Who knows?  Hurricanes may or may not be part of the equation.  But there will be some changes - they can't be stopped.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Annorax on 30 August 2005, 09:14
You mean, will New Orleans look like this next week?

(http://ford.systemofalive.net/atlantis.jpg)

Possibly... but not bloody likely. :)
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Kintaro on 30 August 2005, 09:51
I hear New Orleans has a totally awesome Jazz festival, a friend of mine (old friend, was a friend) went there, it is apparently the raddest thing ever. I will visit the city for sure one day. Its susposed to have a rad (as in talented) underground hip hop scene.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: worker201 on 30 August 2005, 20:35
New Orleans is not without merit.  But it has been living dangerously for too damn long.  It takes the entire US Army Corps of Engineers to keep it from flooding every spring.  I don't know what fucknut put a large city below sea level in the middle of a swamp only 20 miles from the ocean.

And, as usual, the 'projects' are the ones that are hardest hit when flooding does occur.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 30 August 2005, 22:51
We have similar problem in England to, property developers develop on flood planes and then wonder why it floods. They also make the problem worse because tarmac and concrete don't allow water to soak away into the ground so it all runs off into the rivers in one go. This also makes the river level lower in summer as the ground water is replenished less in winter.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Kintaro on 31 August 2005, 09:58
Yes, and its all to blame on rich people.

Solution: kill all the rich people.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Jenda on 31 August 2005, 20:12
What would you do with all the $$$?
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: worker201 on 31 August 2005, 23:50
Redistribute it, of course.  Duh!
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Lead Head on 31 August 2005, 23:52
Quote from: Jenda
What would you do with all the $$$?

*thinks cray super computer*
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Kintaro on 1 September 2005, 11:50
Why the hell would I want a cray?

They are pretty old hat.

In fact, fuck computers, id buy myself a vintage strat.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Jenda on 1 September 2005, 21:23
Yay - more rich people to kill!
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: worker201 on 1 September 2005, 21:57
By the way, I heard an estimate the other day that up to 15% of the US oil refining capacity is down, thanks to refinery closures and damages in Mississippi and Louisiana.  So if gas prices hit $3 nationally, don't be surprised.  It's not because of the price of oil - it's the price of turning oil into gasoline.  Additionally, though I haven't heard any reports of this, there are hundreds of thousands of oil and natural gas pipelines off the Louisiana coast, and they are often damaged by strong storm surges.  There's 2 reasons nobody goes to the beach in Lousiana - 1) no waves (you can walk out a mile before your head goes below water), and 2) black sand.

I wonder how smart it is to have 15% of one of our most important energy industries crowded into a place that is almost guaranteed to be hit by a storm four months out of the year.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 1 September 2005, 22:02
Crayfish are very tasty.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Jenda on 1 September 2005, 22:08
Are they?
I'd be spending on music... SAXOPHONES (there are so many...)
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: worker201 on 1 September 2005, 22:12
Crayfish, aka crawfish, aka crawdads, are in fact very tasty.  Especially if you boil them in a metal trash can and then dump gallons of hot sauce on them.  I used to live down there, and such a cookout is called a crawfish boil.
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Refalm on 2 September 2005, 13:19
The mayor of New Orleans got to be the most ass kicking mayor in the US.
Anyone heared him this morning on CNN too?

He was rambling like crazy :)
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Kintaro on 3 September 2005, 06:43
http://simcityneworleans.ytmnd.com/
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Refalm on 4 September 2005, 16:19
Quote from: kintaro
http://simcityneworleans.ytmnd.com/

:D
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: piratePenguin on 19 March 2006, 20:47
Quote from: toadlife
Oh come on guys...stop with the "GLOBAL WARMING CAUSED THIS" crap.  This is only the fourth largest hurricane on record. Much bigger ones have hit the US this century.
Aloone may have been right: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/18/1819256
Title: Re: New Orleans == Atlantis 2.0?
Post by: Orethrius on 20 March 2006, 00:57
Unfortunately, statistical analyses are only as good as the statisticians behind them.  What have the founders of this report in the way of credibility (I'm asking here because I honestly don't know)?