Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: vincent7544437 on 30 August 2005, 13:16
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Hi all,
im new here.. ok i just want to know what you all think about the news about google starting to worm their way into almost everything. There have been comments that Google will be the next 'Microsoft'
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google is... and will get ahead. For example, Google bought Keyhole and just renamed it to "Google Earh" A lot of their money comes from stocks.
Welcome to MES. :)
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Welcome, vincent.
Indeed, what do you folks think about Google? To me, they seem very good ATM - getting ahead thanks to superior service, not bad marketing practices.
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Yeah, Google rock. I sell my soul to Google.
Google Talk is about 900kb.
Microsoft Windows Messenger is about 7.5MB.
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I trust google more than I trust my mother!
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I trust google more than I trust my mother!
same here
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I see the expanding services of Google generally as a good thing. Most of the services compete with the ones from Microsoft and MSN.
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Thanks for the reassurance - I needed that.
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I will always be a bit worried about any one company becoming too powerful, but at the moment Google is doing an awesome job at Doing Things Right. I really hope they can keep it up.
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Even though Google rely on Linux, they don't do jack shit to help spread it.
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But where would Linux newbs be without Google? Hell, even veterans Google a lot. It's not really so much a search engine as it is a reference library. That is doing A LOT for Linux.
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http://www.google.com/linux
What more could you ask for Aloone?
You Insensitive Clod!
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Even though Google rely on Linux, they don't do jack shit to help spread it.
Google is a search engine, not the OSDL. However, it would be nice if they made Google Earth native Linux.
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They do support Linux quite a lot actually, for example Google Talk (http://talk.google.com) has information on setting it up with Gaim, etc. Does AOL, Yahoo, or Microsoft provide that kind of information for their messengers?
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They do support Linux quite a lot actually, for example Google Talk (http://talk.google.com) has information on setting it up with Gaim, etc. Does AOL, Yahoo, or Microsoft provide that kind of information for their messengers?
No, Trillian and Gaim where very persistant on hacking it out of the various messengers.
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But isn't Google Talk just Jabber, meaning they have done none of the hard work and are taking all the credit?
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The installer look's a LOT like Mandrake's - for Christ's sake can't they come up with something original, for once?
[EDIT:] Can you please move this post to http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=102392#post102392 ? Thanks.
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Many of my friends like Google's Picassa - and AFAIK, it's win-only.
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But isn't Google Talk just Jabber, meaning they have done none of the hard work and are taking all the credit?
Better them use an open protocol rather than design another closed (or open, even) protocol.
All I'm worried about is Google talk clients not interoperating properly with other Jabber clients. Article (http://www.smh.com.au/news/next/google-talk-concerns-jabber-users/2005/08/29/1125167586134.html).
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The problem is not with Google Talk clients, it is (I don't believe anyway) that the Google Talk server does not allow messaging with other jabber servers. It requires a gmail address.
The Google Talk clients also seem to lack the ability to set vCard information like in most Jabber clients, however normal Jabber clients can take advantage of this feature with the Google Talk server. There are also issues with the way the text formatting works with Google Talk verses standard Jabber clients.
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Kintaro,
they also support the dark side (http://www.google.com/microsoft.html), and their desktop search product (http://desktop.google.com/?promo=mp-gds-v1-1) is Windows only. :(
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I welcome Google as a worthy competitor to Microsoft. The company generally seems to be far more ethical than Microsoft, and I don't believe they're in bed with George Bush.
On the other hand, I have read reports that suggest Google is becoming more corrupt, a claim that isn't hard to believe. It seems like every big corporation finds its way to the dark side eventually.
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On the other hand, I have read reports that suggest Google is becoming more corrupt..
By all means please tellus your sources
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By all means please tellus your sources
I can't remember any specific sources offhand. I've just noticed a few articles about it recently. The gist of it seems to be that many people no longer see Google as a knight in shining armor, partly because they fear its size and power and partly because there have apparently been a few reports of corruption - though nothing to rival Microsoft.
I would hate to see Google's good name ruined. I've read that Apple and Google are among the most respected brand names, while many people think Microsoft stands for shit.
I'm hoping that Google, Apple and open source software combined will eventually fry Microsoft. I'm also wondering if Adobe will offer stiffer competition, now that it has acquired Macromedia.
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Kintaro,
they also support the dark side (http://www.google.com/microsoft.html), and their desktop search product (http://desktop.google.com/?promo=mp-gds-v1-1) is Windows only. :(
Who cares? Google Search will come out on Linux eventually. However on Linux such applications are a lot harder to develop than on Windows. It is the price to pay for quality, waiting a little longer.
I guess you think Google should block Microsoft operating systems and IE from their search engine too? GREAT BUSINESS STRATEGY.
Note...
There is a desktop search program in Mono for Linux. It is in Alpha, but it is coming along.
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Yep. And unlike the one in Widows, the built in search utility in Ubuntu ain't a complete piece of crap!
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Excuse me captain offtopic, but we were talking about Google Desktop Search, and programs that compete with it. Microsoft and Gnome's search utlities are meager crap compared to those.
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Sorry to have offended you. If I were using Windows, I'd be looking for an alternative, but with the gnome search utility, I'm quite happy, for now.
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Try Beagle Search, it is a lot like Google Desktop Search, it is pretty radicalistic.
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K - thanks. It's a big DL, so I'll wait for broadband. That'll be active in a few days, but I'll be gone next week, so I won't be able to set it up yet.
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Cool, I have found it pretty damn awesome and useful to find stuff I need.
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http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68849,00.html?tw=rss.TEK
how low can M$ go!!!!!
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They appeared tonight on 60 minutes and I quite agree.Bill Gates hates Google.Good!:tux:
I trust google more than I trust my mother!
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Bump old threads, much? :p
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And Google hates Bill right back :D
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well now google has gotten even bigger over the weekend (or sometime around) they boght youtube, there ceo said a move for them to get into almost avry kind of internet(for lack of a better word) weather it be chatting ( google talk) maps( google earth) search engines(google) plus all the extras on google.ca, now youtube im kind of wondering wat there going to go after next maybe a p2p programme or someting....
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im kind of wondering wat there going to go after next maybe a p2p programme or someting....
Maybe, but since buying YouTube they're saying they'll have to work very hard so as not be sued left right and center for copyright infringement. A P2P program, they'd have to work harder for that again.
edit: welcome to the MES!
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youtube(google) has already gotting agreements threw with compagnies like, sony bmg, and time warner to show copyrighted material on youtube, there are others that they r working on too, i hope it goes threw, also a google p2p programme could be made on grounds that its for users to put up programmes that they have made, i dont think they could get sued if ppl miss youse there programme by putting on it copyrighted materiel and who knows they could make a simalire deal wit sony bmg ect for legal acces to there material, u never know what those ppl at google r gunna do lol
edit: thx :)
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youtube(google) has already gotting agreements threw with compagnies like, sony bmg, and time warner to show copyrighted material on youtube, there are others that they r working on too, i hope it goes threw, also a google p2p programme could be made on grounds that its for users to put up programmes that they have made, i dont think they could get sued if ppl miss youse there programme by putting on it copyrighted materiel and who knows they could make a simalire deal wit sony bmg ect for legal acces to there material, u never know what those ppl at google r gunna do lol
edit: thx :)
Please run your posts through a spellchecker and grammarchecker before posting. You have interesting and valid points to make, but it's difficult to read and respond when we have to work to understand what you're saying.
There are certain copyright issues that Youtube could never solve. Google, however, can throw bricks of cash at those problems until they go away. Thus, Google's Youtube will be successful in ways that Youtube's Youtube could never be.
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Google isn't quite as great as it should be:
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10632
Maybe this change is only recent ... maybe it has recently gone bad, when before it was good.
There was also an article about China and their sponsored censorship there.
You know, somehow I think this is inevitable for all large companies ... "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"