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Title: I'm fucked
Post by: Kintaro on 29 October 2005, 16:38
(00:31:45) Fowler: why do you have $1,200 debt?
(00:31:46) Kintaro: im fucked man
(00:31:47) Kintaro: im broke
(00:31:51) Fowler: shit...
(00:31:59) Kintaro: because I spent $2,000 on a 6 day party

REAL BAD
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Lead Head on 29 October 2005, 16:53
you went through 12K that quick?
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Dark_Me on 29 October 2005, 17:22
Man, your screwed. At least until you pay it off. You had $12,000? What the hell happened to that? Oh well, looks like you'll be working hard for a while.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Kintaro on 29 October 2005, 18:33
Drugs, Computers, Guitar Amps, Alcohol, Caffine Drinks.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 29 October 2005, 18:36
I thought you quit drugs?
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Pathos on 30 October 2005, 00:17
Hope those Amps are good.

$12000 would pay off my tertiary education.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Lead Head on 30 October 2005, 00:46
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
I thought you quit drugs?

he still smokes weed
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Annorax on 30 October 2005, 05:24
Quote from: Lead Head
he still smokes weed


Kintaro - Weed = MrX
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: mobrien_12 on 30 October 2005, 06:46
That's just sad.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Kintaro on 30 October 2005, 12:57
Quote from: Annorax
Kintaro - Weed = MrX


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thats funny.

I quit weed for ages, but fuck it sucked.

I shall toke forever.

Horrah! I have job now!

I am slowly digging out of shit, I should be alright.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Lead Head on 30 October 2005, 13:18
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Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Annorax on 30 October 2005, 16:23
Quote from: kintaro
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thats funny.

I quit weed for ages, but fuck it sucked.

I shall toke forever.

Horrah! I have job now!

I am slowly digging out of shit, I should be alright.


Just be happy you CAN smoke it. There's some odd ass shit brewing here that will eventually lead to the possibility of life sentences for possession of weed. Don't you just love how one party can write up new anti-drug laws, each more draconian than the last, and set the other party's congresspeople up to lose their seats if they're smart enough to vote against the bullshit?

Earth to Bush: I WANT OUT.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 30 October 2005, 17:23
I've tried weed, and didn't like it but other people should be allowed to smoke it if they want. Cannabis does have it's medical uses, it can help people who suffer form multiple sclerosis but it's still illegal even for medical use, which is retarded - even  cocaine is used as a pain killer for fuck sake what's so bad about draw? :rolleyes:

Quote from: Pathos
Hope those Amps are good.

$12000 would pay off my tertiary education.

Yes, one of bad things about this world is that lots of money often ends up in the hands of people who don't need it (like kintaro and Bill Gates) while other more needy people miss out. :(
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Dark_Me on 30 October 2005, 17:30
Their is actual, recent, scientific research proving weed can be bad. If your mind is still developing. Say if your about 16 (ring any bells Kintaro?). And smoke cronicly (I can't spell, damn school system and mull!). It can have some really bad effects, like phsycosis and scisofrenia. But in like 10% of cronic smokers. It's possible but not likely. Besides which I don't think congress has seen any very concrete research. Mainly because there isn't any. There where some studies done when mull was first made illegal but they where buried because they said it was good for you. Keep in mind that they didn't get very far. Wonder why? Bush had nothing to do with this however as he wasn't even born.
And then theres hemp. Which you need to smoke about 3Kg to get high on. It's the strongest natural rope, makes a chipboard thats 10x stronger, great clothing, I could go on but I'm to lazy to research it. Now why is that illagal? You most defanantly cannot get high on it. By the time you do you'll have died of smoke inhalation. That and apparently it tastes horrible.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: adiment on 30 October 2005, 17:44
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
I've tried weed, and didn't like it but other people should be allowed to smoke it if they want. Cannabis does have it's medical uses, it can help people who suffer form multiple sclerosis but it's still illegal even for medical use, which is retarded - even cocaine is used as a pain killer for fuck sake what's so bad about draw? :rolleyes:


Yes, one of bad things about this world is that lots of money often ends up in the hands of people who don't need it (like kintaro and Bill Gates) while other more needy people miss out. :(

you can smoke it (just don't get caught :p)... In cities usually most police officers don't really care that much (they know everybody does it)
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Pathos on 30 October 2005, 20:03
Quote from: Dark_Me
Their is actual, recent, scientific research proving weed can be bad. If your mind is still developing. Say if your about 16 (ring any bells Kintaro?). And smoke cronicly (I can't spell, damn school system and mull!). It can have some really bad effects, like phsycosis and scisofrenia. But in like 10% of cronic smokers. It's possible but not likely. Besides which I don't think congress has seen any very concrete research. Mainly because there isn't any. There where some studies done when mull was first made illegal but they where buried because they said it was good for you. Keep in mind that they didn't get very far. Wonder why? Bush had nothing to do with this however as he wasn't even born.

Yeah i've read something about that. I don't have anything against people using it recreationally if they want. The biggest thing I have against weed is that not until now are we getting hard data on what it does to you, unfortunately at the expense of some individuals mental health. A friend of a friend of mine got paranoid schizofrenia from weed, his mates were scared he would stab them in back or something if they weren't careful.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Dark_Me on 31 October 2005, 08:52
The reason that only now are we getting data on it is that during say the 60's to the 80's when weed was very popular as a recreational drug it was say 1-3 shared joints over a weekend. Now days use is much heaver that this. Say 2-5 joints a day to one person (not too sure about this. Help on this would be nice). Mull is a harmless drug when used in moderation. If smoked cronicly it can permanately alter your brain chemistry. The chances of this are much higher if your brain is still developing though (the brain is fully developed at 21-25 depending on the individual).
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Jack2000 on 31 October 2005, 15:47
... wtf ... what didn't like it !??

should get some help then... just go to a hospital they will check you out
you must (must) get examined ... Weed works on chemical level not on (i like it,no i do not like it !???)

:))D

was not that the same thing Bush said once ???
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Refalm on 31 October 2005, 16:36
I believe a country that locks up people for the possesion of something as harmless as weed, is uncivilised.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: adiment on 31 October 2005, 23:35
Quote from: Refalm
I believe a country that locks up people for the possesion of something as harmless as weed, is uncivilised.

Welcome to America! ;)
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Pathos on 1 November 2005, 00:16
in NZ its becoming barely a crime to possess, cops will just give you a warning (if you are honest) or a fine for a joint.

I'll soon be more popular than cigarettes if it isn't already.

But don't get caught growing it.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: toadlife on 1 November 2005, 00:32
Anyone here have any links to the studies that shows weed causing mental illness? I have a really hard time believing that. I used to smoke it and I've known hundreds of people who have/do smoke it and I've never heard of such a thing.

The only reason weed is illegal in the U.S. is because a tiny minority of ultra-religious, racist people with lots of money lobbied for it back in the 1930's. It's quite sad actually. Marijuana is classified as a schedule 1 drug by the FDA in the U.S. which basically puts it in the same category with hard core drugs like Methanphetamines,Morphine, Mescaline, and Heroine.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Refalm on 1 November 2005, 01:03
Quote from: toadlife
The only reason weed is illegal in the U.S. is because a tiny minority of ultra-religious, racist people with lots of money lobbied for it back in the 1930's. It's quite sad actually. Marijuana is classified as a schedule 1 drug by the FDA in the U.S. which basically puts it in the same category with hard core drugs like Methanphetamines,Morphine, Mescaline, and Heroine.

Wow. If they classify weed as a "schedule 1 drug", they should classify beer as a "schedule 1 drug" too, as it's effects are far worse in my opinion.

Over here, we classify in two categories:
* soft drugs (canabis, mushrooms, absynt and that weird new shit from the amazone)
* hard drugs (XTC, cocaine, heroine, etc.)

Ironically, one of our major export product is a hard drug.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Pathos on 1 November 2005, 04:09
Quote from: toadlife
Anyone here have any links to the studies that shows weed causing mental illness? I have a really hard time believing that. I used to smoke it and I've known hundreds of people who have/do smoke it and I've never heard of such a thing.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/drugs-alcohol/dn6745

they don't say how of those studied did smoke weed but the idea is: you have to smoke excessively during the teen years when the brain develops and be predispositioned towards psychosis.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Dark_Me on 1 November 2005, 04:18
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Use of street drugs (marijuana/hash - cannabis, etc.) have been linked with significantly increased probability of developing schizophrenia. Psychiatrists in inner-city areas speak of cannabis being a factor in up to 80 per cent of schizophrenia cases. Researchers in New Zealand found that those who used cannabis by the age of 15 were more than three times (300%) more likely to develop illnesses such as schizophrenia. Other research has backed this up, showing that cannabis use increases the likelihood of psychosis by up to 700 per cent, and that the risk increases in proportion to the amount of canabis used (smoked or consumed). Research also suggests that there is an increased risk of relapse (i.e. risk of significant worsening of the psychosis) associated with marijuana and other street drugs. The more relapses a person has, the worse the prognosis for people with schizophrenia.
Today, there are over 30 published papers linking marijuana to schizophrenia or other mental disorders. The increase in evidence could be tied to the increased potency of marijuana. A review by the British Lung Association says that the cannabis available on the streets today is 15 times more powerful than the joints being smoked three decades ago.
Taken from: http://www.schizophrenia.com/family.htm (http://www.schizophrenia.com/family.htm)
http://www.schizophrenia.com/newsletter/news02/schizup.oct2.html#nosmoke (http://www.schizophrenia.com/newsletter/news02/schizup.oct2.html#nosmoke)
Theres lots more, just put: marijuana mental illness, into the search engine of your choice.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: hm_murdock on 1 November 2005, 08:01
Isn't it good to know that the human brain can still be *easily* fucked up by shit because it's not done fucking around with itself until over a third of the way through a normal life?
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Pathos on 1 November 2005, 09:09
yeah the "15 times more powerful" bit is pretty scary. I for sensible people I would say legalise it but too many parents just DONT CARE about their kids. We have teenagers driving into trees at 100+ mph and parents just don't care if their kids are next. If it got legallised it would just end up in the hands of children whose parents don't give a shit.

I've always believed that any drug that alters/mucks with the brain in the short term will have long term affects whether good or bad I cannot say but there will be changes.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Refalm on 1 November 2005, 09:16
Quote from: Pathos
they don't say how of those studied did smoke weed but the idea is: you have to smoke excessively during the teen years when the brain develops and be predispositioned towards psychosis.

Ah, this explains Kintaro and choasforages :p
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: toadlife on 1 November 2005, 19:48
Those studies are not very compelling.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Pathos on 1 November 2005, 21:52
No its not like everyone who has smoked weed is going to go crazy but you are more likely to if you fit the profile.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Orethrius on 1 November 2005, 22:52
Quote from: Pathos
No its not like everyone who has smoked weed is going to go crazy but you are more likely to if you fit the profile.

 If the shoe fits, take it off and beat random passers-by over the head with it.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: TheQuirk on 1 November 2005, 23:59
1,200 AUD is around 35.23 USD, so if you're really facing a financial crisis I'm sure some of us could donate a buck or two each, thus ridding you of your debt.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: piratePenguin on 2 November 2005, 00:04
Quote from: TheQuirk
1,200 AUD is around 35.23 USD
How the hell did you figure that?
1,200 AUD = 740.782 euro = 891.283 USD, according to xe.com/ucc (http://www.xe.com/ucc).
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Pathos on 2 November 2005, 00:36
Hey I'm over 4000USD in debt and you dont see me complaining.
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 3 November 2005, 06:00
I say all drugs should be legalized. Not that I do any drugs (I don't) ... I just think it's stupid to tell someone what is good for them or in their interest. People tell me this shit all the time ... "I'm doing this in your interest" ... I say: "Fuck you, you're serving your own damn interests". They're going off a self-centralized principle ... a society enslaving itself ... MUHAHAHAHAHAHH !!! Well, it's true isn't it ? A bunch of fucking bastards telling you how to live your life, according to their rules ... how can put up with this shit ? And you wonder with so many people telling other people how to live their lives ... who is really in charge ? ... if anyone ?

I say everything should be legal: automatic weapons, prostitutes, drugs, ... uhh I forgot the rest .. just complete the list
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: piratePenguin on 3 November 2005, 06:16
Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H
automatic weapons
I agreed with everything before this. But automatic weapons... They were designed for one purpose: to kill. As long as they were only used for people to kill themselves, I wouldn't mind. But after that, others are involved and your having the gun certainly won't be in their interest.

Anything created with the intent of doing evil onto anyone else is bad, and should be banned. That doesn't mean drugs. And it almost (note: almost) certainly does mean guns (and nuclear bombs for that matter).
Title: Re: I'm fucked
Post by: Dark_Me on 3 November 2005, 10:19
The basis for the US constitution is that you can do anything you want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. Therefore (if that is correct) you could argue in a court that you have the legal right to take drugs. Now as you can't take any drug you want isn't that uncostitutional?