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Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Lead Head on 25 November 2005, 04:59
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im_an_internet_troll : Fucking sweet man
im_an_internet_troll : I just picked a fat magic mushie
amdfan12: i am not going to ask what that is
im_an_internet_troll : Its a hallucingenic drug
Is it safe to ever un-ban him?
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im_an_internet_troll : Fucking sweet man
im_an_internet_troll : I just picked a fat magic mushie
amdfan12: i am not going to ask what that is
im_an_internet_troll : Its a hallucingenic drug
Is it safe to ever un-ban him?
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: No, but Refalm and ComSense don't believe in permbanning for less than X separate non-racist fuck (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/member.php?u=2568) offenses without careful consideration for rehabilitation potential, etc,etc... (Yeah, I know, there have been a few one-posters that got permed, but that's different.)
I'm going to put the over/under for this one at 4*. Any takers?
*all wagers lose if X=4, if kintaro=already permed, or if i say so
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If a person's first post is spam, trolling, racist or pornographic then (my guess) is they get permabanned because they've made it clear that they have no intention of contributing to the community.
I think in general it depends on how you present yourself and if you're liked before breaking the rules is concerned. For example someone (Put_lead_in_gates_head) was banned because he chose the wrong name, people prejudge him and he was labeled a troll before they even new him, he was eventually unbanned and has become a well respected mod. kintaro has got away with more because people like him and make allowances because they know he has problems, I think he's a nice bloke too (the only thing I think he is ever guilty of is attention seeking). MrX (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/member.php?u=3400) was banned even though he (technically) broke less rules, he was banned for being an immature idiot who no one liked. I actually miss him I think this forum really needs a troll (just as long as they're labeled as such) we need someone to be the butt of all jokes and to mock when there's nothing else better to talk about. I say bring back MrX be nice to him (if he wants to become a good member give him a fair chance) then if/when he acts an arse label him a troll, even better make his troll status invisible to him and guests but not to other members - go on Refalm it'd be fun. :D
Who do you think were the worst/best trolls?
I would vote for the following, (first the worst) (in my oppinion):
slave (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/member.php?u=993) 1,135 posts and no ban but troll status awarded.
Solaris (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/member.php?u=2497) 598 posts and still no ban or troll status!
MrX (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/member.php?u=3400) 401 posts before a ban and multiple accounts to.
Great_Satan (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/member.php?u=2568) 340 posts multiple accounts before banned.
I don't know who's worse MrX or Great_Satan, at first I thought MrX because he was less blatant and he got away with it for longer but Great_Satan was more offensive, however ripping the piss out of MrX was fun so I don't know. :D
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Personally, I've never had anything against Mr.x. I don't think that anything he did on this forum made him eligible for banning, or even being called a troll. If someone has a behaviour that people find annoying, then the best way to deal with it is through dialogue. Many people whom I would have considered far more annoying were eventually reformed and became good contributers.
I will openly admit that I still chat with him on IM (though not these days, as I'm very busy with essays). He is a very dynamic person with whom I've worked on a project called QuickFox (http://quickfox.illhostit.com/). I don't know whether he will want to come back or not, but if we're going to ban everyone that a few people find 'annoying', then chances are we'll miss out on people who directly contribute to software alternatives.
The worst troll was, hands down, Great Satan. He was a racist who kept posting off-topic materials, and even tubgirls at one point. I don't think Solaris or Mr.X could be considered trolls by any reasonable definition.
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im_an_internet_troll : Fucking sweet man
im_an_internet_troll : I just picked a fat magic mushie
amdfan12: i am not going to ask what that is
im_an_internet_troll : Its a hallucingenic drug
Is it safe to ever un-ban him?
I never knew there was a policy on banning people because they do drugs.
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no not that, You mis the point. the point is , he is on drugs, he will continue to troll and post inapropiate images untill he gets off the drugs.
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but if we're going to ban everyone that a few people find 'annoying', then chances are we'll miss out on people who directly contribute to software alternatives.
I completely agree, from the posts I did see by MrX, I see no reason why he should've been banned, I didn't know him as such, but from what I saw, I don't agree that there was a reason for him to be banned.
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he was banned cause he suposedly created a seconed account, dbx_5 was one of Mr X's friends, he let Mr X use his account
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Yea right Lead Head if you believe that you'll believe anything.
Personally, I've never had anything against Mr.x. I don't think that anything he did on this forum made him eligible for banning, or even being called a troll. If someone has a behaviour that people find annoying, then the best way to deal with it is through dialogue. Many people whom I would have considered far more annoying were eventually reformed and became good contributers.
I've actually tried talking to him, I sent him a couple of PMs explaining why people here didn't get on with him. I didn't get anywhere he just continiued his annoying behaviour. Damn I've deleted the PMs I woud've posted them.
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if you compare Mr X's and DBX-5's you see that they are ver different than dbx had a few logins under Mr Xs IP
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Great_Satan was awesome. My favorite internet troll of all time. :D
(For those shallow-minded, no, I did not agree with him.)
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if you compare Mr X's and DBX-5's you see that they are ver different than dbx had a few logins under Mr Xs IP
Perhapps he was using a differant PC at college maybe?
Sorry but you're wrong either way:
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9540&page=5&pp=25
Allright. Imput considered.
But- did you know that I have been Mr X the whole time? yes, this is Mr X's revenge. Feel free to ban me if you will, but I think it would be interesting to see how things work out, if you did not ban me.
btw- It's hard to be an forum member when people keep on atacking me like kintaro. I only think a few of the forum members have placed themselves in my shoes, to know how it feels to be bullied all the time.
Mr X ?
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kintaro is cool ... there's no real reason to ban him permanently ... maybe we can convince him to take shrooms after posting rather than before :D
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Kintaro was banned bc he posted a pick that showed a man fornicating with an animal, not to mention flaming another forum member.
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But- did you know that I have been Mr X the whole time? yes, this is Mr X's revenge.
It was only him the whole time he was posting in that thread, not since DBX joined.
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News flash
They've just removed the word gullible from the English dictionary.
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News flash
They've just removed the word gullible from the English dictionary.
He was quite honest enough to admit that he was Mr.X.
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Aloone_Jonez i compared the IP address in the moderator control panel. The first posts from DBX_5 came from what it looks like a dial_up service, then the last few posts came from Mr X's IP
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I'm not convinced.
Look their IPs are very similar:
MrX's information
IP Address : 70.69.129.31
Host Address : S0106000d870b9833.va.shawcable.net
E-mail : [email protected]
DBX_5's information
IP Address : 70.69.169.130
Host Address : S01060020ed62e618.va.shawcable.net
E-mail : [email protected]
And so are were their posting style(s):
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9425&page=1&pp=25
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=98830#post98830
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=98898#post98898
This is all far too much of a coninsidence, noticed how DBX just joined when MrX had already turned most people here against him, they made posts next to each other and MrX has never quoted DBX and vice-versa?
I you like to think the best of people but I'm sticking to my gut feeling and instinct on this one. DBX was MrX right from the beginning - there's just too much evidence to support this. I bet if you looked at the server logs you'll find that MrX and DBX were nearly always active at exactly the same time.
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Firstly, it is time for us to all get our facts straight.
I was not high when I posted the picture representing skyman and the united states government. I was sober, and I was bored.
The fact is on magic mushrooms I usually have a higher sensitivity of vision and nearly all monitors, televisions, and CRT screens are unbearable to the eyes because they flicker like motherfuckers. Also I should point out that if I do anything on the computer while high on mushrooms it is usually writing.
This is about the most I did on the computer while I was high on the occasion of talking to Lead Head.
I can feel the power and energy surrounding everything, the subparticle binds on their own dimesnional structure representing our cogntion and conciousness on a whole. For a long time I have known of this shared energy but now I realise that it is their not just to bind us but to allow each of us to stand out in our own fashion. The signal is their and it drives us with the power of God towards more complexity and difference between us because it is our individual self that learns from nothing but our own experience that makes us special.
In a world of so many few are unique, few are special. We all masquerade behind our clothes, opinions, and tastes developed by nobody else except everyone else. We steal and plagerise and put things together to form ourself. We are all the same in many ways because we have come to a point where we hide our God given beauty. Take your clothes off and enjoy who you really are. Stop smiling and put an expression that matches the feeling in your heart, cry, laugh, live. God made you who you are because you are yourself and you are beautiful.
On another note, I believe I have been banned because the Admin Refalm want's to silence me from speaking about his inaction and incompitence on this forum. He let Mr X get away with being a retard for to long. If anyone didn't notice that I tried to be nice to that fucker right from the start, they are blind. I gave that fucker a chance but he would not stop being an idiot.
He had a justifible ban because he filled the forum with nonesense, very few members liked him, and he had to leave. If nobody likes someone, they should leave, stop bitching about, and if neither of those happen: they should get banned.
What should have happened in both the cases of my Kintaro account is that the image should have been removed, and the day goes on. The image wasn't even that bad as far as I am concerned. WOW A GUYS BUTT OMG THATS SO OFFENSIVE THAT IT GETS INTO PG TELEVISION PROGRAMMING ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
I was banned because Refalm knows that he does nothing. He manipulates this forum for his own benefit of power, and needs to be sacked. He thinks it is his forum, and not the webmasters anymore.
Everyone needs to email the webmaster.
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I'm not convinced.
Look their IPs are very similar:
MrX's information
IP Address : 70.69.129.31
Host Address : S0106000d870b9833.va.shawcable.net
E-mail : [email protected] ([email protected])
DBX_5's information
IP Address : 70.69.169.130
Host Address : S01060020ed62e618.va.shawcable.net
E-mail : [email protected] ([email protected])
And so are were their posting style(s):
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9425&page=1&pp=25 (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9425&page=1&pp=25)
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=98830#post98830 (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=98830#post98830)
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=98898#post98898 (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=98898#post98898)
This is all far too much of a coninsidence, noticed how DBX just joined when MrX had already turned most people here against him, they made posts next to each other and MrX has never quoted DBX and vice-versa?
I you like to think the best of people but I'm sticking to my gut feeling and instinct on this one. DBX was MrX right from the beginning - there's just too much evidence to support this. I bet if you looked at the server logs you'll find that MrX and DBX were nearly always active at exactly the same time.
Aloone like i said that only shows the IP of the last few posts, in the moderaotr control panel and DBX_5'S first posts came from an ip begging with 200.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Kintaro, you got banned for posting an image of an act that is illegal in most of the civilised world.
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The sheep looked like it was enjoying it ...
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Aloone like i said that only shows the IP of the last few posts, in the moderaotr control panel and DBX_5'S first posts came from an ip begging with 200.xxx.xxx.xxx
Either way Lead Head, but the other similarities concerning the timing and style of the posts are still enough to convince me, that DBX was always MrX.
The fact is on magic mushrooms I usually have a higher sensitivity of vision and nearly all monitors, televisions, and CRT screens are unbearable to the eyes because they flicker like motherfuckers. Also I should point out that if I do anything on the computer while high on mushrooms it is usually writing.
You really need a TFT monitor.
On another note, I believe I have been banned because the Admin Refalm want's to silence me from speaking about his inaction and incompitence on this forum.
I wouldn't say I agree, I think you were banned for posting porn.
He let Mr X get away with being a retard for to long. If anyone didn't notice that I tried to be nice to that fucker right from the start, they are blind. I gave that fucker a chance but he would not stop being an idiot.
Yes, that really takes the piss how MrX can act a dipshit, piss everyone off and not get banned. I was also nice to him at the start, I tried (on numerious occasions) to speak to him like an adult but all hid did was continiue to post immature comments like "BeOS rools2 "so there" and "I'm so good with my new OS" Where all you and I have to do is break the rules on a couple of occasions and wwe get banned.
He had a justifible ban because he filled the forum with nonesense, very few members liked him, and he had to leave. If nobody likes someone, they should leave, stop bitching about, and if neither of those happen: they should get banned.
Sounds fair to me.
What should have happened in both the cases of my Kintaro account is that the image should have been removed, and the day goes on.
I agree - the moderator reserves the right to remove inappropriet material, which is what should've happend not a fucking ban.
The image wasn't even that bad as far as I am concerned. WOW A GUYS BUTT OMG THATS SO OFFENSIVE THAT IT GETS INTO PG TELEVISION PROGRAMMING ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
I think it was more to do with it representing (I don't know whether he was actually doing it or not but it doesn't matter) a sexual act being performed on an animal.
I was banned because Refalm knows that he does nothing. He manipulates this forum for his own benefit of power, and needs to be sacked. He thinks it is his forum, and not the webmasters anymore.
I disagree, I think Refalm (on the whole) does a good job, he just needs to strike a ballance, trolls should be banned and inappropriet should just be removed. What the Fuck? You were banned for posting a picture of your cock, and animal porn but the offending pictures weren't even removed from the forum. :rolleyes:
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Everyone needs to email the webmaster.
I see what Refalm has to say first, but yes I agree this is retarded.
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I disagree, I think Refalm (on the whole) does a good job, he just needs to strike a ballance, trolls should be banned and inappropriet should just be removed. What the Fuck? You were banned for posting a picture of your cock, and animal porn but the offending pictures weren't even removed from the forum.
EXACTAMONDO DUDE
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the sheep looked like it was NOT ! enjoying it
ps:legal ?? blah i think that country laws should not
"jump over"(/apply) to the Internet
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I guess we'd have to ask the sheep to make sure
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EXACTAMONDO DUDE
Emailing Refalm now.
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Fuck, Kintaro you are right!
The person who posted this (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=106196#post106196) wasn't banned and it was their first post too. :rolleyes:
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Emailing Refalm now.
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Fuck, Kintaro you are right!
The person who posted this (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=106196#post106196) wasn't banned and it was their first post too. :rolleyes:
This was Kintaro's second offense... he should've known better and not posted sheeprape.
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That's even worse - someone who posts porn on their first post probably isn't going to become a decent member.
Anyway what's done is done, the offending member has been banned and kintaro is now unbanned.
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This was Kintaro's second offense... he should've known better and not posted sheeprape.
It had nothing to do with me.
Where is any evidence I did this?
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It had nothing to do with me.
Where is any evidence I did this?
"Your account" == "You" unless evidence to the contrary exists. I'm not aware of any such evidence.
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"Your account" == "You" unless evidence to the contrary exists. I'm not aware of any such evidence.
I thought you were talking about that other picture. The one I never got to see that the other account someone created posted after I got banned.
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I thought you were talking about that other picture. The one I never got to see that the other account someone created posted after I got banned.
I didn't even see the one the other account posted.
Aren't you in Australia? Something might have to be done if the sheepfucking fad has spread out of New Zealand....
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I didn't even see the one the other account posted.
Aren't you in Australia? Something might have to be done if the sheepfucking fad has spread out of New Zealand....
This is becoming even worse than those damn furries. To the goon-mobile!
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I didn't even see the one the other account posted.
Aren't you in Australia? Something might have to be done if the sheepfucking fad has spread out of New Zealand....
It has.
Australia has for the last 3 years has more sheep than NZ.
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And sheep need loving too I suppose ...