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Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Lead Head on 20 December 2005, 19:34

Title: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Lead Head on 20 December 2005, 19:34
Normaly if i wanted to use the internet at school, i had to use IE. The computers had a program that wiped everything that was changed/added upon reboot. so trying to install Firefox was pointless. But i got an idea from someone, to install firefox onto your network folder/drive. I tried that and it worked. so now i dont have to reinstall firefox whenever i want to use the internet at school
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 20 December 2005, 19:44
Watch out, if I remember rightly the admin would search the user areas for executables every now and then and remove them. You might be able to install it on a USB stick, I'm sure this'll work with Opera but I don't know about Firefox.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Lead Head on 20 December 2005, 19:50
It works for firefox too. I will try installing opera tommmorow. maby even gaim or trillian;)
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 20 December 2005, 19:58
Watch you don't get caught or it'll be school 100023021 you -2423423890 - they'll probably ban you from using the computers.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Lead Head on 20 December 2005, 20:38
other kids do worse things :-P, like printing porno out on the laser printer, yes someone did that
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: MarathoN on 20 December 2005, 21:42
I did this at college as well, I downloaded Firefox and installed it onto the network drive, they haven't found out yet, as far as I know (I'll know when I get back from the christmas break :P)
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 20 December 2005, 22:03
Quote from: Lead Head
other kids do worse things :-P, like printing porno out on the laser printer, yes someone did that

Yes, I remember someone printing porn too but they weren't caught, were the kids you're talking about ever caught? I bet they would've been banned if they were.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Lead Head on 20 December 2005, 22:13
no they wernent caught, did you know anyone that got banned from installing firefox? firefox doesnt get through the web site blockers so, i am really doing nothing wrong, the rules only said i couldnt install anything to the computer i didnt'. i installed it to my network drive. Anyways forefox is dog slow, because the server is a junky compaq pentium 2. possibly dual CPU
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: cymon on 20 December 2005, 22:26
Those web site blockers are just a proxy, I believe. If you can find out the proxy the teachers use, for unlimited access, just run firefox on that one.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Lead Head on 20 December 2005, 22:42
its hardware based website blocking :(

http://www.8e6.com
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 20 December 2005, 23:06
Quote from: Lead Head
no they wernent caught, did you know anyone that got banned from installing firefox?

LOL Firefox wasn't even around when I was at school, Netscape had only just lost to IE and Mozilla was still very new. :D
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: worker201 on 20 December 2005, 23:28
Shit.
When I was in school (and I mean when I was a senior in high school), our computer labs were full of one-piece Macs.  As far as apps went, they had word processors, Macpaint, and a pathetic graphical version of Risk.  They weren't connected to the internet, because the internet was still only for physicists at that time.

In 6th grade, I learned how to program in Logo and BASIC for the AppleII.  The gui was still a Xerox-PARC wetdream back then.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Refalm on 21 December 2005, 22:25
Quote from: Lead Head
Normaly if i wanted to use the internet at school, i had to use IE. The computers had a program that wiped everything that was changed/added upon reboot. so trying to install Firefox was pointless. But i got an idea from someone, to install firefox onto your network folder/drive. I tried that and it worked. so now i dont have to reinstall firefox whenever i want to use the internet at school

I install Opera everytime I get on a school computer. It's installed fast and I have a file with all my settings on my network drive.

The same goes for FileZilla and Proxifier (http://www.proifier.com/) (which is awesome if your school blocked ports to ftp, vnc and runescape).
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Jack2000 on 22 December 2005, 21:56
network drives?
where can i get some info on using
network drives with "Kaiowas" ... i guess you do not know
what a "Kaiowas" is ... well it is a 32bit Gui shell
like a second level of desktop which prevents you from installing/uninstalling/and running unouthorised programs and if you disconnect the pc from the main net framework it just shutdowns and refuses to boot until you reestablish the connection with the server pc !!!
we actually have things like THAT on every pc in my school !!!
:(((
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 22 December 2005, 22:07
Never heard of it and I can't find it on Google.

Is this a Windows network?

Can't you run programs of flopies or CDs?

One way is to open up IE and enter A: in the address bar, no you can browse the A drive and load any program or you could use a VB script in Word or any MS Office program.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Refalm on 22 December 2005, 22:46
Quote from: Jack2000
network drives?

I meant my home directory, which was automatically created by the wonderful *cough*crap*cough* Novell NetWare.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: WMD on 22 December 2005, 23:12
Hey now, don't you go dissing NetWare.  It was the best thing out there for a long time.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Pathos on 6 January 2006, 10:25
as said before get a $2 128mg usb drive and you can install heaps of programs

get mame and a whole lot roms, that would be cool.

portable arcade machine.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Refalm on 6 January 2006, 16:20
Quote from: WMD
Hey now, don't you go dissing NetWare.  It was the best thing out there for a long time.

That's true. I posted the NetWare diss after being frustrated by the ISO installer not working at all, and I really needed to install ZenWorks.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: _kill__bill on 11 January 2006, 01:10
So? I have Dev C++, PJ64, Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice and a couple others.
I've heard of some who has Linux on his to get around the proxy. Not trying it. Way too easy to get caught.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Pathos on 12 January 2006, 08:10
ummm... I don't think that works...

You shouldn't have any internet access if you don't have the proxy settings.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Lead Head on 12 January 2006, 16:27
my school uses hardware website blocking :(.Firefox cant, even the built in browser in eyeOS still cant get around it
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 12 January 2006, 17:51
Most schools have hardware firewall that blocks internet access to anything else except for Internet Explorer and in a way I agree with them (apart from choosing Internet Explorer) as it stops sypware from becomming a problem and where I work you can't download executable files.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: piratePenguin on 12 January 2006, 18:02
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Most schools have hardware firewall that blocks internet access to anything else except for Internet Explorer and in a way I agree with them (apart from choosing Internet Explorer) as it stops sypware from becomming a problem and where I work you can't download executable files.
Or they could just use Firefox or some other secure browsers and not block the students from seeing what it is they want to see.
If anything, IE should be banned.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Refalm on 12 January 2006, 18:35
Quote from: piratePenguin
Or they could just use Firefox and not block the students from seeing what it is they want to see.

Content blocking in schools is a great thing. No one wants to sit in a classroom and check regularly if some kid is browsing a porn site.

The time spent watching these teens could be spend teaching and helping someone with school work.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: piratePenguin on 12 January 2006, 18:46
Quote from: Refalm
Content blocking in schools is a great thing. No one wants to sit in a classroom and check regularly if some kid is browsing a porn site.

The time spent watching these teens could be spend teaching and helping someone with school work.
If some kid wants to look up porn during school, then you've got have bigger problems than teachers wasting their time enforcing censorship manually (which is even worse than automatically).
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Refalm on 12 January 2006, 19:45
Quote from: piratePenguin
If some kid wants to look up porn during school, then you've got have bigger problems than teachers wasting their time enforcing censorship manually (which is even worse than automatically).

I don't have that experience with what I've done once for a primary school.
I used squidguard to block content. I downloaded an 8 MB text file filled with the internet.

Ever since, there has been very little reports of kids looking up porn.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: piratePenguin on 12 January 2006, 20:11
Quote from: Refalm
I don't have that experience with what I've done once for a primary school.
I used squidguard to block content. I downloaded an 8 MB text file filled with the internet.

Ever since, there has been very little reports of kids looking up porn.
You do have a bigger problem, and it's that kids in that school would want to look up porn during class. All you're doing is blocking what they for some reason want to do.

You've still got kids who want to look up porn for whatever reason, the only difference is that you're standing in their way.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Refalm on 12 January 2006, 21:06
Quote from: piratePenguin
You do have a bigger problem, and it's that kids in that school would want to look up porn during class. All you're doing is blocking what they for some reason want to do.

You've still got kids who want to look up porn for whatever reason, the only difference is that you're standing in their way.

Well, there are also websites you browse to accidentilly, and that you really do not want children to see (and possibly explain it all, which is something everyone wants to avoid).
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: piratePenguin on 12 January 2006, 21:10
Quote from: Refalm
and possibly explain it all, which is something everyone wants to avoid
So much for school.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 12 January 2006, 23:25
Quote from: piratePenguin
If anything, IE should be banned.

Yes, I don't know how I did it but I blocked IE on my Windows XP install by using the MS Windows XP firewall. :D
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Refalm on 12 January 2006, 23:49
Quote from: piratePenguin
So much for school.

Talking about primary school here.
Title: Re: School 0, Me 1
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 12 January 2006, 23:58
My parents taught me about sex when I was 4 years old just before my little sister was born, sex education should be a priority and start from a very early age. Children should learn the truth about where babies come from as soon they're old enough understand, it also makes it easier for them to tell someone if an adult is sexually abusing them.

However having said all of this there's a big differance between sex education and pornography, the latter isn't very educational and doesn't set a good example to children about safe sex or inform them of the consequences of unsafe sex.