Author Topic: Vista, Mac OS X Clone?  (Read 11196 times)

toadlife

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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #15 on: 4 March 2006, 02:13 »
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Yeah it's obvious that the last two screen shots are XP.

What's new though? Microsoft have been ripping off other companies for YEARS. They aren't innovators. The last innovation, TRUE innovation, in all honesty was the BASIC programming language. Look at it closely, hell even 95 was a rip off of OS/2....

Innovation != Invention

You are confusing the two.


....And Microsoft jointly developed the first version of OS/2 with IBM. You'll have to excuse Microsoft for plagiarizing themselves.
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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #16 on: 4 March 2006, 02:18 »
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...but I STILL can't play 32bit DOS games in XP or 2000 even on a FAT32 system they run like SHIT...


32bit DOS games!

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PS I am a jerk... my real name is Arsehol Jerk McJerkin


My guess was Igor McIgnoramussen, but I guess that fits too.:thumbup:
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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #17 on: 4 March 2006, 02:34 »
Please don't post twice. Edit your post.
 
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The 8086, 80286, and the 80386 and friends were all X86 platforms.

wow the 80286. I still have one it runs at the alsome speed of 3mhz!!!! yeh that is alsome man it kicks ass. if you have time to watch it boot... *snore* takes forever to get passed the bios check.

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But I see huge similarities between some of the OSS window managers and existing commercial OS's every day. No complains about that because they realise its just the best way to do things. KDE follows windows pretty faithfully with the KDE menu and toolbars (admittably they do a better job).

Yeh but no one cares when the os is free it is when microshit steals others ideas then copyrights them. I hope it comes back to hit them. One day mac will make something and then copyright it before microshit does and then microshit will steal it and get owned in court.

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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #18 on: 4 March 2006, 02:41 »
You can't copyright an idea.
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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #19 on: 4 March 2006, 02:49 »
What are you talking about ... of course you can copyright an idea (if you mean copyright not copywrite). That's what the bastards at my college keep driving into my head ... always cite your sources ... copying someone elses ideas is plagarism (I've heard that an innumerable amount of times)

P.S. It takes forever for this damn thread to load even with 0.33 MB/sec down (DSL) ... I wonder what it's like on 56K ... it must be hell

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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #20 on: 4 March 2006, 03:25 »
No, you can't. You can patent an idea.  And I meant to write "copyright", not "copyrite". "Copyrite" isn't even a word. :D
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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #21 on: 4 March 2006, 03:44 »
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What are you talking about ... of course you can copyright an idea (if you mean copyright not copywrite). That's what the bastards at my college keep driving into my head ... always cite your sources ... copying someone elses ideas is plagarism (I've heard that an innumerable amount of times)

P.S. It takes forever for this damn thread to load even with 0.33 MB/sec down (DSL) ... I wonder what it's like on 56K ... it must be hell

I have 5MB/s cable and this tread loads instantly, wasnt that bad on dial up either
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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #22 on: 4 March 2006, 08:09 »
You cannot copyright an idea.  You copyright an expression of that idea.  

Copyright violation doesn't really have much to do with plagarism. If you copy someones work and distribute it without permission, that's copyright violation.  If you take a chunk of someones work (e.g., a quote) and put it in your paper, and cite it, it is considered fair use and you do not violate copyright. I assume there are some other reasonable cases where you don't have to really cite the author because it's common knowledge where it came from (like if I said "I'll buy that for a dollar." you would know it came from RoboCop.)  

Plagarism is where you put someones words or ideas down and do not  give them credit.  The point of plagarism is taking credit.  If you put a quote down, word for word, and do not attribute it, then you have plagarized it. You have also done copyright violation in this case, but that is a side effect of stealing credit.  Common knowlege statements do not need to be cited (if everyone knows gold is yellow, and Jane says it in a paper, you can say it too and not have to cite her).  

You can plagarize ideas.  If someone comes up with a novel idea or insight, and you parrot it as your own without attributing it, you are stealing credit for that person's idea.  Plagarism.  Again, I think there are some things that are so well known that you don't have to attribute them.  When I talk here about Free Software, I don't have to cite Stallman.  You guys know he came up with the idea.

Citing is good for other reasons.  When you write a paper, you are building an ironclad case.  Every citation is a fact supporting your case.  When you cite, you give the reader the ability to backtrack through your argument, and give yourself credability.
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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #23 on: 4 March 2006, 09:18 »
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My guess was Igor McIgnoramussen, but I guess that fits too.:thumbup:

Igor McIgnoramussen? If you're going to insult me try something atleast half-assed.

I read your blog Toad and I think you qualify for that position more so than anyone else here.:D Perhaps making up your mind about something would make it somewhat intelligible

And yes they did make DOS 32bit games on top of an extender, I thought we already went through this...

Read before you post.

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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #24 on: 4 March 2006, 09:23 »
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You cannot copyright an idea.  You copyright an expression of that idea.  

Copyright violation doesn't really have much to do with plagarism. If you copy someones work and distribute it without permission, that's copyright violation... blah blah blah... Every citation is a fact supporting your case. When you cite, you give the reader the ability to backtrack through your argument, and give yourself credability.

True enough, now if anyone wants a real explanation go here and order a copy of "Free Software, Free Society", buy the shirt while you're at it.

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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #25 on: 4 March 2006, 09:53 »
I think the 32bit DOS game crack was meaning "there's a guy who still runs 32-bit DOS games?"

There were lots of good games in 32bit DOS.  Back then they didn't have monster computers with insane 3d acceleration and 3d sound hardware and CPUs which are essentially supercomputers.

So they had to, you know, concentrate on making a fun game instead.

I swear, Tomb Raider I was the best of the series in terms of sheer fun.  

The Crusader No Remorse/Regret games were great.

The only problem with DOS games was they were a pain  to configure.
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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #26 on: 4 March 2006, 15:24 »
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So they had to, you know, concentrate on making a fun game instead.


I would agree with this. But only if your talking about the 2d games. some of the earlier 3d game I hated doom wolfsten marathon (i could never figure out how to exit the game).

Doom-ok i guess but you know kinda oldish

Wolfstein- Yeh got throw the first 10 levels and I just got bored

Marathon- Probably the best because it has mouse support yeh yeh. But with no jump and stuff it can only rot.

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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #27 on: 4 March 2006, 19:48 »
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I swear, Tomb Raider I was the best of the series in terms of sheer fun.  

It was even better with the "special" patch ;)

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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #28 on: 4 March 2006, 20:46 »
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It was even better with the "special" patch ;)

I am gonna take a stab at

Nude patch?
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Re: Vista, Mac os Clone.
« Reply #29 on: 4 March 2006, 21:44 »
Since it's not too legal I call it "special"