Haha, but still. The point is it helps some people. It's one of my habits and since there's a button in other wms I not the only one. You open stuff compulsively, then you want to get to your icons, or in the case of flux, just merely right clicking to get to the menu - and that's the only way to get to program links on the gui, but there's a bunch of stuff in the way so you have to go and minimize everything one by one. There idea and habit I have is to open whatever you want at will, that's why a permanent menu on a panel is the best. Fluxbox doesn't have your program menu there. And as far as multiple workspaces, Yes, flux does have them. By default there's the usual 4, but even workspaces run out of space if you go around opening stuff on each one. And having to switch desktops slows you down. A command to minimize everything, is there such a thing? I like the idea of setting that to the windows key.