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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #15 on: 25 August 2006, 04:30 »
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The computer industry seems to have hit a wall.

hit a wall???

dell is getting what deserves for screwing up so many customers.

Hardware is cheaper than ever, more compatible than ever and constantly improving. Intel has just released a superb new processor line, AMD have a strong and very competitive processor line. There is strong healthy competition in every area of hardware : processors, memory, graphics cards, hard drives, cases, motherboards. This has resulted in great prices, quality and compatibility. All the major innovations in processors have gone smoothly, 32->64, dual core, virtualization, etc.

This is mostly thanks to Microsofts lack of progress in the last years since the release of XP, they haven't broken all the hardware compatibilty.

In the software world there is a huge array of quality free applications, Linux/GNU is incredibly powerful, adaptable, and nearing perfection everyday.

I reckon the computer industry is one of the greatest periods of its existance. 5 years ago memory was very expensive, amd and intel had hit a processor frequency barrier.

It hasn't hit a wall at all but it has plateaued in terms of innovation. I really think the biggest problem is the lack of change in input/output devices. We have been using 2d raster displays, speakers, keyboards and mouses for the last 2 decades and they greatly restrict interaction with software.

we need the gloves from minority report and 3d holographic displays ... :) .. that will revolutionise the computing industry again.

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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #16 on: 25 August 2006, 04:36 »
oh and 1 gig of memory is easily used up. Battlefield Vietnam is years old and uses all my 768MB of memory.

Often in computer software you can sacrifice memory for speed and since memory's so cheap why not ?

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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #17 on: 25 August 2006, 06:38 »
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It hasn't hit a wall at all but it has plateaued in terms of innovation. I really think the biggest problem is the lack of change in input/output devices. We have been using 2d raster displays, speakers, keyboards and mouses for the last 2 decades and they greatly restrict interaction with software.

Heh yea like we will see anything but 2d displays for a very long time. Possibly not even in our lifetime will anything but that be the common thing. Sure they might get huge and reach tremendous resolutions, but today we barely have touch screens as a luxury. No holograms for us. Besides that, what if they came alive and got loose on the ship?


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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #18 on: 25 August 2006, 07:04 »
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...today we barely have touch screens as a luxury.

Wait, WHAT?  At the rate we're progressing (pricepoints where LCDs were 2-3 years ago) we'll have multiphasic holograms by the year 2015. ;)

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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #19 on: 25 August 2006, 09:23 »
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No holograms for us. Besides that, what if they came alive and got loose on the ship?
It would be pretty hard to do much serious damage to most boats:D

If it makes me an old codger to say that keyboards, mice, and flat panels are just about as far as I'd like to go, as far as user interface goes, then so be it.  Some things feel right.  I don't think I would like a home touchscreen or a 3d interface.

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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #20 on: 26 August 2006, 02:37 »
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Wait, WHAT?  At the rate we're progressing (pricepoints where LCDs were 2-3 years ago) we'll have multiphasic holograms by the year 2015. ;)

1024x768 for a dirty screen and probably short life? Is it real tiny? :thumbdwn:
Besides that I never said touch screens were great. I've tried stuff like that (other people's)  and it's not highly exciting. In some cases you'd probably prefer a mouse. The really cool stuff is in the $1000s (Will someone get me one for Christmas?).

And I haven't heard of any noteworthy hologram technology. If someone somewhere is claiming there is, that's the same thing they said about fying cars and advanced robotics by 2000 once upon a time I bet. And imo we're not progressing at that high a rate. And that's just in technology. In other areas it seems like we go backwards sometimes.


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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #21 on: 26 August 2006, 02:41 »
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It would be pretty hard to do much serious damage to most boats:D

But they really screwed up the Enterprise, didn't they?


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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #22 on: 26 August 2006, 06:07 »
my brother's a graphic artist in training and he got a large Wacom Intuos and loves it.

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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #23 on: 26 August 2006, 19:29 »
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oh and 1 gig of memory is easily used up. Battlefield Vietnam is years old and uses all my 768MB of memory.

Often in computer software you can sacrifice memory for speed and since memory's so cheap why not ?

Cuz it's a piece of shit. It's a highly memory inefficient game. Real game engines don't need that much RAM and offer very nice graphics. Take the Quake 3 engine for example ... needs about what 64 MB RAM and 16 MB VRAM. That's a real fucking game engine. (Well I think 128 MB RAM and 32 MB VRAM is recommended for max performance)

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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #24 on: 26 August 2006, 21:00 »
It's because MS actually employ Jedi. They've mind tricked us into thinking we don't need to see any identification...we may pass...
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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #25 on: 27 August 2006, 19:06 »
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my brother's a graphic artist in training and he got a large Wacom Intuos and loves it.

That's what I have but I don't love it. Sure it's ok but I'd trade it for the other thing in a heartbeat.


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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #26 on: 21 September 2006, 10:15 »
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That's what I have but I don't love it. Sure it's ok but I'd trade it for the other thing in a heartbeat.

it depends how you use

My brother finds he can naturally draw with it as good as pencil and paper without the drawbacks.



One of the problems today is that although there are great improvements in computational capacity, the software department are finding ways of counter-acting that.

Software people are being taught to be lazy (in some aspects).

Why ? Because in order to be lazy you find the simplest method of implementing the desired functionality ?

Why ? Simplicity means less code, less bugs, less maintainance, less documentation, less time to develop.

Of course there are things you won't get away with but generally this is the case.

Optimisation is dangerous, often algorithims that are a order of magnitude more complex are required. If there is a performance requirement then of course they have to be accomplished but generally only a small amount of code is spent being processed most of the execution time and that code should be the focus for optimisation.

In the long run it saves the company a lot of money, the consumer gets a less buggy functional product and as long as they have hardware for the job everyones happy.

This is reason for Java and .NET, both are very popular for inhouse software because of the savings in an application that will not directly make any money.

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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #27 on: 21 September 2006, 10:58 »
Here we go again...

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Microsoft left red faced after live hacking demonstration

Tom Sanders in California, vnunet.com 07 Aug 2006

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A security researcher at the Black Hat security conference has demonstrated several ways to circumvent security features that are built into Microsoft's forthcoming Windows Vista operating system.

According to media reports, researcher Joanna Rutkowska with Coseinc demonstrated two ways to attack a Windows Vista system during a session at the conference. The exposed flaws would potentially allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code.

Windows Vista requires that all device drivers are 'signed' to prevent malicious code from posing as a legitimate driver. The researcher however demonstrated a way to load unsigned drivers.

The researcher in the second case used the virtualisation technology in a system's AMD processor to inject code into the Vista kernel. The technology would allow an attacker to create a new hypervisor that could control the operating sytem. It would remain undetected from the user and would be at the attacker's disposal.

Although she only demonstrated the attack on an AMD processor, Rutkowska said that it would also work on PCs running Intel chips.

Both attacks relied on documented features in Windows Vista and should not be considered bugs, she added.

"The fact that this mechanism was bypassed doesn't mean Vista is insecure. It just means it's just not as secure as advertised," said Rutkowska, according to Internet News.

Earlier at the annual Las Vegas security event, Microsoft had challenged hackers to test the operating system's security features. It has distributed copies of the software's latest beta to about 3,000 security researchers.

Rutkowska is not the first security researcher to hack into a Windows Vista system, but is the first do so in a live demonstration at a public event.

As reported last week, security vendor Symantec has demonstrated several ways to circumvent the operating system's user account protections. Although Microsoft has since repaired the bugs Symantec had identified, it illustrates that the software still has weaknesses and that additional bugs are likely in the future.


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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #28 on: 21 September 2006, 11:07 »
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Both attacks relied on documented features in Windows Vista and should not be considered bugs


WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL SURPRISED BY THIS SHIT?  WINDOWS IS A SHITTY OPERATING SYSTEM - GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Vista to be released in October come Hell or high water.
« Reply #29 on: 21 September 2006, 13:12 »
May I quote the party line?
"It's a feature, not a bug."

What a CROCK.

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