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« on: 27 September 2002, 21:59 »
Forget about trying in vain to get your Linux distribution to behave, or plunking down tens of thousands of dollars for a Macintosh, when you can use what works!  You can rant and rave about the merits of open source, but you decline to comment on the quality of the software in the first place.  You'd use Linux even if it ran only one program and crashed every 15 seconds, simply because it's "open source."  Open source is a failed idea, because it isn't centralized and there is no authority over it.  Any dope can submit a patch, and very few knowledgeable people contribute compared to all the idiots who probably create more bugs than they fix -- which would explain why open source software has more bugs than any other type of software.  Who are you going to trust your mission critical systems to, some pasty faced kid sitting in his room with no pants on wearing a "think geek" t-shirt, or a multibillion dollar company that is dedicated to providing customers the support they need?  And the idea that "information wants to be free" is ridiculous.  People have a right to protect their intellectual property.  Linux only exists to thwart the efforts of hard working companies like Microsoft and Adobe, turning the computer software industry into a desolate wasteland of "free software."

Don't get me started on Apple.  They are just like Microsoft, except they make slow computers and overcharge for them, and they use a fruit as their logo.  I fail to see why you have no problems with Apple, which in the past has resorted to very dirty tactics against other companies (such as suing Microsoft over using overlapping windows in their GUI -- puh-lease)  Apple acts like they invinted the idea of the GUI when they simply stole the idea themselves from XEROX Parc.  Those liars.

I frankly don't care if open source is "morally superior" to companies like Microsoft, (I don't believe it to be) and even if it were, I would use what works, not what makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside (which Open source doesn't; it gives me a sinister feeling instead)  You Linux geeks can take your moral righteousness and shove it.

Another thing, everyone is up in arms about Palladium, the one thing that could save the computing industry and bring order to the galaxy.  Only somebody who wanted to download warez or look at kiddie porn would have a problem with Palladium, and you liars know that.  Palladium will be more private and secure than Linux will EVER be, simply because of the way it's designed.  You can't very easily crack hardware, after all.  The TCPA website's FAQ even stated that they support open source, what more do you want?  Linux users are never satisfied.

Go ahead, use Linux, but get off your high horse and quit acting like every move the software industry makes is an affront to "free software."
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« Reply #1 on: 27 September 2002, 10:09 »
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Originally posted by Harry:
Don't get me started on Apple.  They are just like Microsoft, except they make slow computers and overcharge for them, and they use a fruit as their logo.  I fail to see why you have no problems with Apple, which in the past has resorted to very dirty tactics against other companies (such as suing Microsoft over using overlapping windows in their GUI -- puh-lease)  Apple acts like they invinted the idea of the GUI when they simply stole the idea themselves from XEROX Parc.  Those liars.


Actually that is not true. Apple did not steal their OS from Xerox and Windows abused a "licence" they had with apple to borrow certain elements of the GUI. The lawsuit BTW was won on a technicality.

For the full story read:

http://www.mackido.com/Interface/ui_history.html

As you will see, the actual story is much diffrent than you may belive. As for overpriced and slow, well, that is another topic all together that has been debated on the forums ad nauseum. You can dig up threads in the Lounge or the Mac section if your interested in our views about this.

Most would agree, that while PC's tend to be more powerfull, you loose in usability and stability. And they aren't THAT much more powerfull, nor THAT much cheeper for that matter.

Quality vs. quantity you might say.

Well, good luck getting responses! I'm sure Calum will have a lovely reply for you in the morning. The kind you, and everyone else around here knows, you have been fishing for    ;)  

Best of luck!

[ September 27, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

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« Reply #2 on: 27 September 2002, 10:21 »
It never ceases to amaze me why trolls come here thinking they are going to change minds. People come here because they are sick of Microsoft. A feeling that isn't likely to change once you've got it.
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« Reply #3 on: 27 September 2002, 10:53 »
Looks like windozeluser#1234567890 is back.

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« Reply #4 on: 27 September 2002, 11:45 »
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Forget about trying in vain to get your Linux distribution to behave, or plunking down tens of thousands of dollars for a Macintosh, when you can use what works!


Yes but the majority of the Linux movement would just pirate wind0ze and forget about Linux if Wind0ze was so great.

 
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 You can rant and rave about the merits of open source, but you decline to comment on the quality of the software in the first place. You'd use Linux even if it ran only one program and crashed every 15 seconds, simply because it's "open source."


NO THEY FUCKIN WOULDEN'T! Wind0ze would be vastly superior to Linux if that was the case.

 
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 Open source is a failed idea, because it isn't centralized and there is no authority over it.


That argument is good in theory.

 
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 Any dope can submit a patch, and very few knowledgeable people contribute compared to all the idiots who probably create more bugs than they fix -- which would explain why open source software has more bugs than any other type of software.


Any dope? When you download from a distro's website everything is perfectly screened. Chances are, any dope who submits a patch will have half-decent programming skills. Learning Linux is not easy, and only those who have INTELLECTUAL power shall join the ranks. As such, virtually all users are too sophisticated to release a patch that is shit. They either make a good patch, or they realize their shortcomings.

 
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 Who are you going to trust your mission critical systems to, some pasty faced kid sitting in his room with no pants on wearing a "think geek" t-shirt, or a multibillion dollar company that is dedicated to providing customers the support they need?


These same pasty faced kids are pulling off feats that bypass the security made by people three to four times their age. So trusting of multibillion dollar corporations that get beaten by immature peasants every now and then? I think I want these peasants working for me.  

 
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I frankly don't care if open source is "morally superior" to companies like Microsoft, (I don't believe it to be) and even if it were, I would use what works, not what makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside (which Open source doesn't; it gives me a sinister feeling instead) You Linux geeks can take your moral righteousness and shove it.



Many Linux users are here for reasons besides morals. I wouden't be here at MES if Microsoft offered an awesome OS, but you have to be part of their evil empire to use it. The morals are a side effect of my hunt for a proper OS.
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« Reply #5 on: 27 September 2002, 12:09 »
the original poster is not even a moron. worse, he is so far up his own arse that he is ooking out of his own mouth.

I will not deign to reply to this waste of space. Giving a shit about moronic comments like these is only free if your time is worthless.

one more thing - i'm a liar am i harry? well you're a cunt.

[ September 27, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

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« Reply #6 on: 27 September 2002, 12:38 »
Just for the record, in all the time i have had linux, and i have tried 3 different distros.  NOT ONE OF THEM HAS EVER CRASHED.  Sure an application might go wrong but linux has never failed me.  Harry you twit you don't know what you are talking about.

Pallidium is what you think it is, but don't start whining when you cannot play your DVD on your pc or lend it to your freind or play your own "legally" copied mp3 collection when you want to.  Hopefully Pallidium will also deny you the ability to access the net as well because stupid people are not allowed, they waste time and bandwidth for the rest of us.

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« Reply #7 on: 27 September 2002, 12:52 »
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Hopefully Pallidium will also deny you the ability to access the net as well because stupid people are not allowed, they waste time and bandwidth for the rest of us.


AMEN TO THAT!
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« Reply #8 on: 27 September 2002, 14:08 »
XPloser rise again!!!
How long he will last this time?
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« Reply #9 on: 27 September 2002, 14:26 »
quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
Forget about trying in vain to get your Linux distribution to behave, or plunking down tens of thousands of dollars for a Macintosh, when you can use what works!  You can rant and rave about the merits of open source, but you decline to comment on the quality of the software in the first place.  You'd use Linux even if it ran only one program and crashed every 15 seconds, simply because it's "open source."  Open source is a failed idea, because it isn't centralized and there is no authority over it.  Any dope can submit a patch, and very few knowledgeable people contribute compared to all the idiots who probably create more bugs than they fix -- which would explain why open source software has more bugs than any other type of software.  Who are you going to trust your mission critical systems to, some pasty faced kid sitting in his room with no pants on wearing a "think geek" t-shirt, or a multibillion dollar company that is dedicated to providing customers the support they need?  And the idea that "information wants to be free" is ridiculous.  People have a right to protect their intellectual property.  Linux only exists to thwart the efforts of hard working companies like Microsoft and Adobe, turning the computer software industry into a desolate wasteland of "free software."

Don't get me started on Apple.  They are just like Microsoft, except they make slow computers and overcharge for them, and they use a fruit as their logo.  I fail to see why you have no problems with Apple, which in the past has resorted to very dirty tactics against other companies (such as suing Microsoft over using overlapping windows in their GUI -- puh-lease)  Apple acts like they invinted the idea of the GUI when they simply stole the idea themselves from XEROX Parc.  Those liars.

I frankly don't care if open source is "morally superior" to companies like Microsoft, (I don't believe it to be) and even if it were, I would use what works, not what makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside (which Open source doesn't; it gives me a sinister feeling instead)  You Linux geeks can take your moral righteousness and shove it.

Another thing, everyone is up in arms about Palladium, the one thing that could save the computing industry and bring order to the galaxy.  Only somebody who wanted to download warez or look at kiddie porn would have a problem with Palladium, and you liars know that.  Palladium will be more private and secure than Linux will EVER be, simply because of the way it's designed.  You can't very easily crack hardware, after all.  The TCPA website's FAQ even stated that they support open source, what more do you want?  Linux users are never satisfied.

Go ahead, use Linux, but get off your high horse and quit acting like every move the software industry makes is an affront to "free software."



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« Reply #10 on: 27 September 2002, 15:00 »
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Who are you going to trust your mission critical systems to, some pasty faced kid sitting in his room with no pants on wearing a "think geek" t-shirt, or a multibillion dollar company that is dedicated to providing customers the support they need?


Yeah...a "Multibillion dollar company" that took approximately 15 years to get an operating system together that *almost* works correctly.
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« Reply #11 on: 27 September 2002, 15:14 »
I particularly like the way he links to fuckApple in his profile.

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« Reply #12 on: 27 September 2002, 15:30 »
guys this is just WindowsXP User 2089234890342890 and you know it, it's not an abundance of trolls as much as it is 1 guy pretending to be an army.

i installed Windows XP again over my old Linux driver and it froze on the fourth day. MySQL came up with errors of duplicate entries and i had to reinstall everything which uses MySQL.... every now and then the mouse will just go fucked and started doing crazy shit on me like opening files deleting parts of a file and putting the console into my start menu (right under Outlook). it freezes every once and a while for about 10 seconds but remains usable.

i've been on Windows for 4 days and i'm already fed up with the bullshit that goes on....there is absolutely no reason for the computer for the computer to freeze for like 10seconds. i am happy to be playing Diablo2 again on the fast computer but jesus what is so hard about getting the OS to work right.

all i remember about the whole GUI thing is that Apple got the design from Xerox then MS took that same design and when Steve Jobs badmouthed Gates about it, Gates said "just because you broke into Xerox and stole the TV doesn't mean i can't go in and steal the stereo"
i actually like Bill Gates, he's so smart that it just blows me away but his company slowly went down the shitter..... i miss Windows 3.1   :(  now that would make a killer server OS.

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« Reply #13 on: 27 September 2002, 18:31 »
christ this is ludicrous. I am itching to put this in the dead thread zone, but you guys just had to post in depth replies to this guy as if he was worth paying attention to.

I suppose that's just the way *nix people are...

Think about it, if somebody had been this dumb and posted a lot of shit about linux calling all the windows users liars, over on our evil nemesis board the Windows BS, they would have banned his IP within minutes and deleted all his posts.

Here, the people actually take the time to respond point by point to his insane ramblings!!!

how you lot can be bothered is beyond me.

Well, i think i will be leaving this topic open, just to give people a space to vent in...
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« Reply #14 on: 27 September 2002, 19:02 »
I agree! Put this in the dead thread zone. I can't imagine this post was even trying to start a real debate. Waste of time.
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