Tried that, still fucked. Honestly, what a piece of shit. Imagine creating an application that goes to a dead end with no way out. It's dumber than the dumbest guy from dumbland. I can't even use Lookout Express becuase it kicks off the stupid sign up shit too. ANyway, cheers for the help. I tried the Windows BBS and I have yet to get any solution to about 6 problems I have posted there. So, the fuckmicrosoft guys are more help than the Windows BBS. Go figure !