Author Topic: Microsoft sucks? ok then...  (Read 901 times)

TheGateKeeper

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Kudos: 0
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« on: 7 August 2004, 02:28 »
I found this site and man what an eye opener! I always kind of assumed that they keep track of all that stuff, kind of like the T-vo thing, but I guess what my question is what can i do about it? I am a windows user and would like as much privacy as possible. Does every Os do this? it seems like if one does it, why wouldnt they all do it? so inconclusion, what I am getting to is, what OS do you guys use? or are we all just having are privacy not so private. so it doesnt matter what we do?

Laukev7

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,834
  • Kudos: 495
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #1 on: 7 August 2004, 02:51 »
No, Windows is the only OS that tracks the movements of the users. Mac OS X and other UNIX-like OSes like Linux and FreeBSD are well documented and/or open source, and their browsers are not integrated in the OS like Explorer.

TheGateKeeper

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Kudos: 0
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #2 on: 7 August 2004, 03:24 »
wow, thank man thats what i was looking for.

Xeen

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,065
  • Kudos: 55
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #3 on: 13 August 2004, 06:50 »
I use Windows 2000 and will never ever switch to XP or beyond. Windows 2000 is the last decent Windows version. XP and beyond is pure crap and always will be until MS rewrites it from scratch and starts doing what consumers and computer literate people actually want.

However, even though I use Win2000, I do not use any other MS software with it. I do not use Internet Explorer, no outlook, no office, no media player...none of that shit. There are lots of other alternatives that are much more better and sophisticated. I recommend you do the same.

M51DPS

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 608
  • Kudos: 30
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #4 on: 13 August 2004, 10:57 »
quote:
Originally posted by TheGateKeeper:
...but I guess what my question is what can i do about it?


First of all, stop using windows. Switch to one of the alternatives like Mac OS X or a free Unix-like system. Even if you find you can't get off of windows entirely, there's no reason you can't switch to non-microsoft apps for windows.

Next you need to talk to your friends/family/co-workers/etc and convince them to do the same.

Good luck with switching.  

insomnia

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 587
  • Kudos: 0
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #5 on: 14 August 2004, 06:16 »
start burning
         
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
    Voltaire

Injustice is happening now; suffering is happening now. We have choices to make now. To insist on absolute certainty before starting to apply ethics to life decisions is a way of choosing to be amoral.
R. Stallman

http://www.pvda.be/


Canadian Lover

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 713
  • Kudos: 122
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #6 on: 14 August 2004, 06:46 »
quote:
Originally posted by insomnia:
start burning
                     



Is there anyway I can download all images at once? (For a single distro, of cource) I just dislike having to download 4 different files!  :mad:

[ August 13, 2004: Message edited by: Canadian Lover ]


Aloone_Jonez

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 4,090
  • Kudos: 954
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #7 on: 14 August 2004, 06:48 »
quote:
Originally posted by xeen:
I use Windows 2000 and will never ever switch to XP or beyond.


I don't blame you, XP is only a minor upgrade, it's NT 5.1 instead of 5, and it is clearly not worth it.

 
quote:
Originally posted by xeen:
Windows 2000 is the last decent Windows version. XP and beyond is pure crap and always will be


You may not be able to see it, but XP is better than Win2k. I personally hate the play school interface, but most of that crap can be turned off.

Why is XP better than Win2k?

  • pre-emptive booting makes it boot a lot faster than Win2k.
  • Built in USD driver for digital cameras.
  • Journalled configuration makes it easier to unfuck the registry, if you or some other shit program up.
  • Built in support for ZIP archives.
  • If you run a program an then close it, the second time you run it, it is a lot quicker to start. This is because (providing you have plenty of free physical memory) it keeps some of the code in memory.
  • Better multi-user support.
  • A little bit more secure than Win2k, hopefully SP 2 will help this.

The following things are worse in XP:

  • The user interface, especially that fucking annoying find files dialogue box.
  • The active desktop that enables you to set animated GIFs and html files as your wall paper can't be disabled and it slows your system down.
  • Compulsory registration.
  • runs less old Win9x/ME software (not that I care).

I wouldn't upgrade to XP for these features, but if I was offerd XP for not much more than Win2k I would take it.

 
quote:
Originally posted by xeen:
until MS rewrites it from scratch and starts doing what consumers and computer literate people actually want.



First of all MS didn't write the NT kernel. NT was  written by Dave Cutler along with the rest of the VMS team. VMS was a good OS, it even beat UNIX in some ways. Although NT is not VMS, it was not written by MS but for MS, they did fuck it up a bit by including Win32 code and some other shit.

NT doesn't need a compleate rewrite, it just needs to be stripped back down to the kernel and all the other shit needs a rewrite.

 
quote:
Originally posted by xeen:
However, even though I use Win2000, I do not use any other MS software with it. I do not use Internet Explorer, no outlook, no office, no media player...none of that shit. There are lots of other alternatives that are much more better and sophisticated. I recommend you do the same.


Good for you!    

PS: sorry for my bad spelling and grammar, it's getting late and I've had a few drinks.
This is not a Windows help forum, however please do feel free to sign up and agree or disagree with our views on Microsoft.

Oh and FUCKMicrosoft! :fu:

WMD

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,525
  • Kudos: 391
    • http://www.dognoodle99.cjb.net
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #8 on: 14 August 2004, 07:04 »
quote:
If you run a program an then close it, the second time you run it, it is a lot quicker to start. This is because (providing you have plenty of free physical memory) it keeps some of the code in memory.

Windows 95/98/ME/2k does that as well...that isn't new at all.
My BSOD gallery
"Yes there's nothing wrong with going around being rude and selfish, killing people and fucking married women, but being childish is a cardinal sin around these parts." -Aloone_Jonez

Aloone_Jonez

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 4,090
  • Kudos: 954
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #9 on: 14 August 2004, 07:08 »
quote:
Originally posted by WMD:

Windows 95/98/ME/2k does that as well...that isn't new at all.



Oh yes, I think everything else I listed is new though.

Does Linux do this too, I notice a similar thing in Vector Linux.
This is not a Windows help forum, however please do feel free to sign up and agree or disagree with our views on Microsoft.

Oh and FUCKMicrosoft! :fu:

M51DPS

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 608
  • Kudos: 30
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #10 on: 14 August 2004, 08:14 »
quote:
Originally posted by Aloone:

If you run a program an then close it, the second time you run it, it is a lot quicker to start. This is because (providing you have plenty of free physical memory) it keeps some of the code in memory.



Wait, I think I remember this (or something similar) from Mac OS Classic, but wasn't it considered bad because it ate up memory?

insomnia

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 587
  • Kudos: 0
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #11 on: 14 August 2004, 08:57 »
quote:
Originally posted by Canadian Lover:


Is there anyway I can download all images at once? (For a single distro, of cource) I just dislike having to download 4 different files!   :mad:  

[ August 13, 2004: Message edited by: Canadian Lover ]



Yes.
BitTorrent
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
    Voltaire

Injustice is happening now; suffering is happening now. We have choices to make now. To insist on absolute certainty before starting to apply ethics to life decisions is a way of choosing to be amoral.
R. Stallman

http://www.pvda.be/


WMD

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,525
  • Kudos: 391
    • http://www.dognoodle99.cjb.net
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #12 on: 14 August 2004, 21:42 »
quote:
Originally posted by M51DPS:


Wait, I think I remember this (or something similar) from Mac OS Classic, but wasn't it considered bad because it ate up memory?



Every OS has done this.  It's the disk cache.  Classic Mac never went above 8MB for that (well, that's what I saw in 8.6).  In DOS it was SmartDrive.
My BSOD gallery
"Yes there's nothing wrong with going around being rude and selfish, killing people and fucking married women, but being childish is a cardinal sin around these parts." -Aloone_Jonez

Refalm

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,183
  • Kudos: 704
  • Sjembek!
    • RADIOKNOP
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #13 on: 14 August 2004, 21:12 »
quote:
Originally posted by insomnia:


Yes.
BitTorrent



The original BitTorrent client is a little too lite. Azureus is much better (and more languages than just English) ;)

M51DPS

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 608
  • Kudos: 30
Microsoft sucks? ok then...
« Reply #14 on: 15 August 2004, 08:33 »
I see, I thought cache was only used for running programs. Thanks for the info.