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« Reply #30 on: 13 May 2002, 03:09 »
i tend to agree, think of the damage people could do if everybody had free reign on public systems like schools!
while you may not like it, it is sensible, and also fair.
I reckon that if you are in your own time and can get supervision then fine, to show people yr site et c, but otherwise it is too dodgy.

PS this is my first post using lynx! also, i am telnetting into my shell account and using their lynx, so it's a double whammy first for me! (still not got my crappy modem to work though, so using windows  :(  )
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« Reply #31 on: 13 May 2002, 03:33 »
Calum, you should use "ssh" rather than "telnet" if at all possible. ssh is encrypted and is much more functional (awesome is more like it, especially if you use it for port forwarding etc). If you have to access your machine from a Win* machine go to http://www.openssh.org where you will find lots of ssh and scp clients (I like "putty", "pscp" etc, although I find it rare anymore that I have to use the Win* versions as I run Linux nearly exclusively at work and at home).
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« Reply #32 on: 13 May 2002, 03:40 »
I love ssh  :D

I discoverd it when one of my annoying friends was pestering me to teach him some of the commands you could give to the Darwin consol. He wanted to try an PING one of his friends offline on another computer (ya he's childish like that) and while looking for remote commands, I discoverd ssh.

Now all my friends have accounts on my computer, and I on theirs. I keep a Terminal window open so they can "write" me and I can monitor their activity.

It's great stuff that ssh
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« Reply #33 on: 13 May 2002, 03:44 »
Another nice thing about ssh is it will automatically forward your X11 ports (if you have it configured to do so).  What this means is if you "ssh" into a remote machine you can run X apps and display them on your local X server, even through a firewall.
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« Reply #34 on: 13 May 2002, 04:18 »
well when the teacher is not available i have to get on AIM or EMAIL to ask questions but i cant, as i do at home.

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« Reply #35 on: 13 May 2002, 04:30 »
No, you don't have to get on AIM or Email when the teacher is not around.
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« Reply #36 on: 13 May 2002, 04:45 »
quote:
Originally posted by Alex:
well when the teacher is not available i have to get on AIM or EMAIL to ask questions but i cant, as i do at home.


Look dude, stop trying to pull a fast one.

If you wanna hack the computer out of curiosity, or out of malice, just admit it. The point is, these forums arent for that kind of info.

X11 is constantly tossing out hacker links and stuff, why don't you track some of those down and persue your interests elsewere.
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« Reply #37 on: 13 May 2002, 06:28 »
I know someone who managed to create an admin account in Win 2000 on a computer at my school, and when they found out, THEY WERE PISSED. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT FUCK WITH SCHOOL COMPUTERS! They had the 4 officers in the school come down and if the culprit would be found, he'd be suspended for about a week.

It's just not worth it.

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« Reply #38 on: 13 May 2002, 13:46 »
people will do what they do, the only real law is "don't get caught". people learn ethics as they get older, meaning that when we are at school, we usually have less ethics than when we are older. This does not apply across the board, example, X11 seems much more responsible than some who have posted here, most recently whiteboy, who is eleven years' X11's senior, but is sorely lacking in graciousness and consideration. There are in fact tons of older people with no ethics at all. that's not my point, my point is that you can do what you like, but if you do things that are illegal or immoral and so on, then you will probably (and you should) get caught and have to face the consequences. This in itself will probably affect your social development, but the important thing is that if you do something you might get caught at, you have to be prepared to get caught.
Too many people these days do stuff, get caught, and are really bitter about it, because they think it's their right to break the law, sometimes it is, or should be, but often they are just infringing on someone else's rights and that is not fair. Don't fall into the trap of getting caught, and then resenting it. I think that the start of good ethics is to take responsibility for your actions.

on another note, i do actually use puttytel to connect to my shell account, it is the bollocks when compared with telnet, which i think i have only used once, on my flatmate's win98 machine. I was only using the word 'telnet' as a generic verb rather than to describe the program i was using (at the risk of sounding pedantic!). Thanks for the advice though, as always much appreciated.
I don't think i want to be able to use an X session though, as i am at a point now where i am trying to gain a thorough grounding in the amazing 32bit command line and a GUI would just distract me.
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« Reply #39 on: 14 May 2002, 02:20 »
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No, you don't have to get on AIM or Email when the teacher is not around.


ummmm......ya i do, there are a lot of kids in the class and he cant constantly be helping me, therefor i need to get on aim, email, etc but i cant like i do at home for help.

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« Reply #40 on: 14 May 2002, 02:35 »
THINK ABOUT IT!!! how could you possibly expect a school to give all the students unrestricted use of the network and internet facilities? you do not need access to webpages and email at school. what you need is a better schooling system. this is indicative of modern society at its core. instead of improving services, we whine off to look at webpages, and lose ourselves in the electronic world. still, not long before the bomb goes off, or we run out of land and air, eh?  :D
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« Reply #41 on: 14 May 2002, 04:01 »
quote:
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ummmm......ya i do, there are a lot of kids in the class and he cant constantly be helping me, therefor i need to get on aim, email, etc but i cant like i do at home for help.



Ummmmmmm, no you don't.  Are you that stupid?  What has the school system come to these days? My kids get along just fine without AIM or Email, or being able to browse anywhere they choose.  In fact they have not received anything less than an 'A' in any class ever.  My daughter has straight A+'s going this entire year (for the classes that give A+'s).  When I went to school there was no internet. I turned out ok (well, there would be some that would argue that point).  Don't be such a cry baby.
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« Reply #42 on: 14 May 2002, 05:06 »
well it would be nice to expand my knowledge of VB at school by talking to others.

FYI - i also have all A's

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« Reply #43 on: 14 May 2002, 05:36 »
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well it would be nice to expand my knowledge of VB at school by talking to others.


VB sux ass. Learn C\C++, you can do more with it than just wright trojans and e-mail bombs.

'nuf said

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« Reply #44 on: 14 May 2002, 05:43 »
You do not need AIM or Email to expand your knowlege of VB. This isn't intended as a slam but I don't see how you could be getting all A's when you seem to have such a hard time following instructions.

Rather than being so dependent on everyone else to answer your questions, you need to learn how to research for yourself. You will learn a lot more that way and it will "sink in". The best advice I ever got was "RTFM". When I first started in computers I did much like you are now. Asking questions of people that knew the answers until they finally got so fed up with my questions they refused to answer any more. They instead told me what manual I could find the answer in.

I was a little annoyed at first but like I said, it was the best advice I could have received. When I found the answers myself, I realized that I learned much more, and that with each question I found the answer to the amount of time it took to find the answers grew smaller. I will again give you the best advice you can get one final time: http://www.google.com
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