Author Topic: The reason for PowerQuest abandoning SecondChance ?  (Read 1239 times)

Shumi

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Anyone know *why* PowerQuest abandoned Second Chance (restore to previous state program) ????

Could it be that it simply restored your system 100% correct ?

Why was it replaced be a more 'smart' system restore program (which doesn't restore specific files, and registry setting) ?

Did Microsoft wrote Powerquest a nice "letter", asking them to immediatelly replace SecondChance by DriveImage (which does NOT restore 100%) ?

I seriously think so !
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« Reply #1 on: 21 June 2002, 13:53 »
or howabout this, if a program claimed it could restore programs when they crashed, giving you a chance to save stuff, then you got it and it couldn't, you'd be angry and never buy anything from that firm again (unless they had a stranglehold on the market, thus circumventing the natural rules of competition).

I have had a couple of programs that claim to do this very thing, they were both shit. I think they were norton and mcafee programs. More often than not they turned a program crash into a system crash (something windows needs no help with).

My prognosis: why release a program that will probably not work, or could make the situation worse, if it means bad publicity for yourself and your company?

translation: windows is shit, and getting shitter too fast for PowerQuest to keep up.
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« Reply #2 on: 21 June 2002, 13:57 »
oh wait, you mean it's like system restore? sorry, i thought it was some thing to let you save your files befre the BSOD snatched them away forever.

in that case, it's still the same reason, since system restore is a heap of nonworking shite that takes up a huge amount of diskspace. Why should an OS need system restore anyway? what they are essentially saying by including it in the OS is "our systems are now so likely to crash and erase data that you will need a huge program to attempt to minimise the damage." progress is great isn't it?
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« Reply #3 on: 21 June 2002, 15:21 »
I totally agree with Calum. It's really an oxymoron that M$ put a feature like that in their OS's. I mean, if they were as reliable and stable as they claim they are, why would anyone want to restore them to a previous configuration?

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« Reply #4 on: 21 June 2002, 15:35 »
actaully every system need a system restore feature. its just some system's are constantaly broke and work when there broken. other when the break. they *really* phuck up /*someone who is drunk/alterede/tired as hell rooted in a console. hmmm *very* good example of y constant backupt's are good*/. however some backup utilitys are better. lets see, i think i would take amanda/*i think thats what its called*/ over M$ system restore. bsod's, system restore is just another way for all that p0rn to come back and hunt you.......
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« Reply #5 on: 21 June 2002, 16:00 »
i was kind of meaning that the system fucks it up rather than the tired old sysadmin, in front of a root console propping eyes open with matchsticks and dropping caffeine pills like m&ms...

They say there's no such thing as a computer error, but Microsoft windows has proved otherwise, and system restore just confirms it. Human error is the reason for backups, Microsoft windows is the reason for system restore...
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« Reply #6 on: 21 June 2002, 16:29 »
no its so they can find all yer porn - (1) - graphy and look at it for you. and its so *all* your porn comes back to to you later. like when you don't want it. i agree that the only real reason that a system should have an autorestore is for Stupid User Error. and besides from expereince, what i just mentioned in the first paragraph is the only thing its gonna bring back. i killed /*not on purpose, it kinda didn't like itself too much that week*/ a windows Molested Edition computer and sysrestore had no effect in trying to bring it back from whistle land
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« Reply #7 on: 21 June 2002, 16:39 »
My idea of system restore...

root@localhost ~ # cp /dev/hd(drive)(partition) /(where you want to save it all to)
im my case its:
root@localhost ~ # cp /dev/hda2 /prog
then i split it up with a program i made.

which gives me about 3 files of backup for whatever partions...

Then i burn it to a cd with "cdrecord/x-cdroast"