My First time Linux Experience.

[Oddzball]

I just want to be able to install the other software packages? Any idea why it doesnt recognize my Linux install cd #2 as being the linux install cd #2?

[Stryker]

quote:Originally posted by Agent Jimmy James Smith:
remember, the "brands" of Linux aren't really different "kinds". It's just what company packages it. Linux is just the kernel, and everything else is "GNU Utilities" and stuff made for that distro.

and what the fuck is my point? I'M AN ASSHOLE!! I don't need one. I'm sick of hearing people bitch about my platform, so I'm gonna bitch about everything else by blowing shit outta my ass.

OS X > Linux distros

CthulOS will soon = OS X

CthulOS > Linux distros

oh wow, thanks for clearing that up for me...

does this mean that you no longer support your my-video-card-doesnt-work-perfectly-right-away-so-linux-sucks theory?

no oddzball, i dont. did you use that disk to install mandrake? I'm not too familiar with mandrake, not sure what process it uses to identify the disk.

[JesusRocks]

Jimmy James, is it your goal to come into every linux discussion and screw with it.

Should I start posting in the Apple Section?

I dont post in there because my latest apple experience was with OS 7.

[emh]

quote:Originally posted by Oddzball:
I just want to be able to install the other software packages? Any idea why it doesnt recognize my Linux install cd #2 as being the linux install cd #2?

Do you have more than one CD-ROM drive?  If so, try the other one.

Aside from that, I'm really not sure.  You're describing problems I've never had.

 

quote:
It will be a challenge everytime you use it.

I don't think that even Torvalds knows how to use it 100% painlessly

I can assure you that this is not true.

[BouncingAyatollah]

On older Celery 400Mhz machines, ATI Rage video cards, everything-on-board Gateway PCs I found small quirks with both Mandrake and Suse installs. I would say try Redhat 9.0 or if you just want to have a look try Knoppix (it runs straight from CD with about 2Gb of apps to play with).

I've used RedHat9 on both a modernish Duron/Athlon machine and an old grunter of a P233 mostly fine (see later). However there *was* a problem with the 2.4.20 linux kernel and *some* Athlon/XPs (especially XPs - including mine) which seeing as it was the "current" kernel affected Redhat9, Madrake 9.?, Knoppix 3.2 and so on, maybe this is your problem?

I'd say get and try Knoppix 3.3 (newer kernel) and if that works this may be the answer. Until the Athlon XP problem was fixed Redhat9 had freezing on boot, and some executables on Gentoo just crashed. Since Gentoo has been updated to a newer kernel it is fine. As for internal modems, "Winmodems" are not usually linux-friendly, graphics cards - sorry don't know much about the specifics here.

[emh]

For Mandrake help, you can try this message board as well:

http://www.mandrakeusers.org

[Oddzball]

Hurray I finally got linux running. So... i read all your tips, and i still cant get to add any packages etc without completely reinstalling. Allwyas gives me this bull about not having the right cd in the drive. So when ever i have to install software or packages, its complete reinstall for me, joy. Other then that Im suprised, sure linux aint as great as everyone claims, but its nice, and runs suprisingly well on my older computer.

[emh]

Have you tried browsing the CD and double clicking on an RPM?

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by Oddzball:
Hurray I finally got linux running. So... i read all your tips, and i still cant get to add any packages etc without completely reinstalling. Allwyas gives me this bull about not having the right cd in the drive. So when ever i have to install software or packages, its complete reinstall for me, joy. Other then that Im suprised, sure linux aint as great as everyone claims, but its nice, and runs suprisingly well on my older computer.

That doesnt sound at all like you finally got it running.

[Oddzball]

Ok so technically i got it limping. I'm thinking of saying screw mandrake and going to try redhat, though its a pain in the ass to have to download 3 cds again.

Cd1 of my mandrake distro always seems to have errors when installing stuff. I even re downloaded and reburned it and its still bad, so im just gonna have to go with a different distro of linux.

Gentoo or redhat seem like good choices. I dont really see a difference between the different types anyway personally..

[emh]

I'd pick Red Hat over Gentoo personally, because, from what I've heard, Gentoo isn't exactly the most user-friendly distro there is (of course, having not tried it myself, I can't say that for certain).

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by Oddzball:
Ok so technically i got it limping. I'm thinking of saying screw mandrake and going to try redhat, though its a pain in the ass to have to download 3 cds again.

Cd1 of my mandrake distro always seems to have errors when installing stuff. I even re downloaded and reburned it and its still bad, so im just gonna have to go with a different distro of linux.

Gentoo or redhat seem like good choices. I dont really see a difference between the different types anyway personally..

The problems you have listed are really atypical.  It may be that the CD image you downloaded was damaged.  I was especially puzzled by the problems with the Voodoo 3 because Linux support for V3,V4,and V5 is really quite good.  Right now I have a V5 on one of my boxes and it didn't give me any problems on install.  

I'd really suggest you run an MD5sum on any ISO image you download.  MD5sum will examine a file and generate a string of characters based on the file contents.  Linux ISO mirrors put a small file (usually in the same ftp directory)  containing the string that they generated with md5sum.  If they match, then you know you didn't get any corruption during your download, before you potentially waste time burning a bad image to CD.

MD5sum comes with most linux distros.  You can download versions for windows if you need to.

BTW, my last mandrake install was like 3 or 4 years ago, so I can't comment on the Mandrake install process. I can tell you that I've had very good results with RH installs.

[Refalm]

quote:Oddzball: The real problem im having now is that when i go to the little add and remove packages thing and try to add more packages it asks me to put the linux cd in, and when i do it seems to not realize it, and keeps ejecting the cd and telling me to put linux instal cd 2 in the drive. Unfortunately it is in the drive, so im unable to add new packages when i need them.

Anyone know how i can add packages (like open office for example) and get the stupid thing to recognize the cd that is in the drive?

Why did you burn the CD's in the first place?  

I unpacked the ISO's, put them all in one directory on C:\, inserted a Mandrake bootdisk and installed from there.

I'm not sure, but I think the package installer looks there for the CD-ROM's.

[Doctor V]

quote:Originally posted by Oddzball:
Gentoo or redhat seem like good choices. I dont really see a difference between the different types anyway personally..

Hahaha

Install red hat and when your done install gentoo and then tell me if you see a difference between the different types.  

Gentoo and Red Hat are about as far apart as Linux Distro's come.  Mandrake is a distro that looks like Red Hat.

I wouldn't recommend Gentoo to someone who hasn't touched Linux before, its alot more tedious and less straightforeward than redhat or mandrake.  However, if your willing to spend some time reading and have paitence, you could install Gentoo and get a system the is perfectly tailored to your hardware and gives as good performance as Linux can get.

[insomnia]

Considering:

*You seem to have HW probing difficulties.
*You don't seem to like GNOME.
*You don't like burning ISOs again.
*You had configuration and packaging problems
 
You might like doing this:

SuSE 8.2, ftp installation.
http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/suse_linux/index.html
 
Yast is a very usefull tool for easy installation , configuration and package management.
Just be sure you read the installation guide.

[ October 10, 2003: Message edited by: insomnia ]