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« on: 7 February 2002, 10:05 »
When I have the ability to play the quicktime movies from the apple website on Linux, SuSE is my new OS. on my SuSE disk that I have I can install a program called "Quicktime4Linux" In the description it says that it is a library for quicktime files. On the site it says that it plays quicktime files. Unfortunately, I am so noob at linux I don't know where it is or how to run it. If someone could tell me how to use "Quicktime4Linux" I would take windows off of my PC forever.

P.S. If you know of an easier or better quicktime player please tell me where to get it and how to use it.

P.S.S. I am way too noob to compile or whatever u linux geeks call it, basically all I can do in Linux (program installing wise) is use RPM's and the SuSE add/remove programs feature.

P.S.S.S. Sorry for my incompitance, hopefully I will become better at this open source stuff. Right now, to me, Open source means, "Hard to Use." Hopefully later it will mean "Yes, its free and I can change it however I want"

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« Reply #1 on: 7 February 2002, 11:28 »
Rather than starting another thread, you might want to go look at the following thread on /. which is almost a year old now but I don't believe the status has changed a lot. We can only hope now that Apple has a bunch of *NIX developers in house that they will put out a port really soon. It's funny though, I can't think of ever running into a case where I wished I had QuickTime installed.  I have no trouble with MPEG and RealVideo, guess I must visit the wrong sites...

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« Reply #2 on: 7 February 2002, 13:56 »
http://openquicktime.sourceforge.net/

All files in tarball format. No RPM's as far as I could find, but... what is so difficult about compiling? Three things involved:

./configure
make
make install

That's all to it, really, nothing to it.
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« Reply #3 on: 7 February 2002, 19:46 »
quote:
Originally posted by VoidMain:
It's funny though, I can't think of ever running into a case where I wished I had QuickTime installed.  I have no trouble with MPEG and RealVideo, guess I must visit the wrong sites...
It's those nasty little .qt and .mov files you see. Once i am eventually into Linux, i will have to go through the headache of finding not only players but converters for all those proprietary formats out there. (WMV, WMA, AVI in its myriad forms, RAM, RM, RA, FLM and many others) This was hard in Windows, but will be just as hard i'm sure in Linux. That's what i was saying in one of the Lindows fora somewhere, about incompatibility of proprietary formats & c.
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« Reply #4 on: 8 February 2002, 01:12 »
quote:
Originally posted by lu666s:
http://openquicktime.sourceforge.net/

All files in tarball format. No RPM's as far as I could find, but... what is so difficult about compiling? Three things involved:

./configure
make
make install

That's all to it, really, nothing to it.



But what you quote are mostly libraries (yes there is a player, but there are already better players out there).  The problem is the proprietary Codecs.  Apple doesn't want to let them be used.  It's Apple's bad if you ask me.
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« Reply #5 on: 8 February 2002, 01:15 »
quote:
Originally posted by Calum:
It's those nasty little .qt and .mov files you see. Once i am eventually into Linux, i will have to go through the headache of finding not only players but converters for all those proprietary formats out there. (WMV, WMA, AVI in its myriad forms, RAM, RM, RA, FLM and many others) This was hard in Windows, but will be just as hard i'm sure in Linux. That's what i was saying in one of the Lindows fora somewhere, about incompatibility of proprietary formats & c.


Calum, most formats can be played under Linux.  I believe all of the formats you mention can be (Xanim plays a lot of formats, and you can install RealPlayer for Linux, get it from real.com just like you do for other OSs).  Apple, for whatever reasons only wishes to support a couple of platforms: Apple, Windows.  Why they would support Windows over Linux is beyond me?!?  I thought Microsoft was the enemy.
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« Reply #6 on: 8 February 2002, 02:40 »
I am not 100% sure on this but I think that you can play quicktime files that are not encripted their compression codec that I think they use for streaming.  Allso you probably don't know how to decompress a tar ball so that you can compile it.  To decompress a tar ball use tar -xvzf filename

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« Reply #7 on: 8 February 2002, 05:31 »
quote:
Originally posted by lu666s:
http://openquicktime.sourceforge.net/

All files in tarball format. No RPM's as far as I could find, but... what is so difficult about compiling? Three things involved:

./configure
make
make install

That's all to it, really, nothing to it.




Well, I Downloaded Open Quicktime and only to my surprise your steps did not work,
I browsed to the directory I extracted everything to with the "Konsole" and then typed "./configure" it did "stuff" and finished without any errors that I noticed, then I typed "make" it said the bash command system could not find that file directory or command. so I tried "make install" and no errors but also did nothing.

Does anyone know of a free windows emulator? I have the windows disks to install windows, but nothing to emulate windows, In essence it would be a virtual pc for Linux that is free.

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« Reply #8 on: 8 February 2002, 05:50 »
quote:
But what you quote are mostly libraries (yes there is a player, but there are already better players out there). The problem is the proprietary Codecs. Apple doesn't want to let them be used. It's Apple's bad if you ask me.



Never needed quicktime, so if you know better, just  fire away...  ;)  

 
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 then I typed "make" it said the bash command system could not find that file directory or command


Well, then you should note what was that missing and either install it or post here so we can help.

Also, you would need to do it as root, as the make install is concerned.

As for emulators, you can probably use vmware, which is actually a virtual machine layer. Works prety well and you don't need to partition your system for double boot.
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« Reply #9 on: 8 February 2002, 06:06 »
If you noticed in my first post I said that I have never had a need for QuickTime either, but was just trying to help the person who said that was important to him.

As far as the "make" command not being found by the other dude/dudette, sounds like they haven't installed all of the development packages (make, gcc, etc, etc).  They probably answered "no" to the question on the install if they wanted the development tools installed.

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« Reply #10 on: 8 February 2002, 10:04 »
sorry, if I pissed anyone off, that was not my intention, and I do Appreciate your help.

You think VMWare is my best bet, OK, I'll go research that option

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« Reply #11 on: 8 February 2002, 11:37 »
If you run into trouble installing vmware, you can bug me, but read all the docs first, you may be fine doing just that.  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 8 February 2002, 12:21 »
Yeah, VMware is a little slow with updating their system to run with the newer kernels in the latest distro releases, luckily a little patience with the vmware-config.pl install script it will recompile the vmware kernel modules for you. It was slightly tricky getting it to run on RH7.2 but worth the effort. I've found that it is not quite as stable as the 2.x release but it has more features (like USB support so you can run all your USB devices in your Win* session). The stability thing could be because of my customized kernel though. Have you had any problems with it?
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« Reply #13 on: 8 February 2002, 12:39 »
No, but then I run it on 2.4.8.26mdk kernel. Haven't encountered many glitches, but then I do not use w2k very often. Had some PS stuff which was pretty resource hungry and all was fine. I have 256mb and 1ghz athlon on that workstation.

Of course, all the possible candys like animated menus and so forth were turned off, with that on there was a degree of mouse jerkiness and temporary lockups.
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« Reply #14 on: 8 February 2002, 15:17 »
Yeah, I've got 512MB and an Athalon 1600.  I can throw about anything at it and you would think it was the only OS running. VMware is very cool.
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