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GamerX

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« on: 2 April 2003, 06:36 »
Lie: Linux is not stable.
Truth: Most Linux distros are extremely stable. Ask yourself this, how many times has Windows crashed on you? How many for Linux? 'Nuff said.

Lie: Linux has no software support.
Truth: Linux has tons of software support, a lot of which is completely free! All over the internet is great software waiting to be downloaded for Linux.

Lie: Linux isn't for gamers.
Truth: Linux is perfect for gamers. Linux distros aren't bloatware, meaning more space for games. Every good Linuxer knows that most Windows games can run on a Linux system with alittle tweaking.

Lie: Linux is a bad programming language.
Truth:  :eek:  Completely wrong! Linux is by far the easiest programming language out there. It is easy to get used to (it took me about a day) and there are hundreds, maybe even thousands of free resources on the web, and entire Linux communities that will help you with every question you have.

Lie: Microsoft isn't stopable.
Truth: M$ is[/B] stopable. By buying and supporting Linux-supporting companies, going to your nearest computer store and buying a Linux distro, and spreading the word about the freedom of Linux (and burning copies for your friends), we can shut off M$'s main resource, Windows. It doesn't stop there!
    You can organize a boycott of M$'s other products and support Nintendo and Sony, so M$ can't succeed in infesting the console business.
    Don't buy there games!
    Don't buy there mouses!
    Build your own PC and put Linux on it or buy a Mac!
    Organize an e-mail campaign to major PC making companies telling them their blind support of M$ won't be tolerated!
    Have a phone campaign!
    Call people and tell them about how evil M$ is! Make brouchures!
    Make sure to include many facts in your campaigns about M$'s tactics!
And, most importantly, don't do it alone! Spread the word on your campus (or school) first, and then start larger campaigns!
We could do this! I know it! People think we're crazy, but we're not! We are liberators of the computer world!!!
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« Reply #1 on: 2 April 2003, 07:36 »
Truth: Linux isn't a programming language.

  ;)

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« Reply #2 on: 2 April 2003, 08:25 »
quote:
Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
Truth: Linux isn't a programming language.

   ;)  


that seems to be a common misconception about linux. Why do people associate linux with programming, to the point that linux becomes a programming language??

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« Reply #3 on: 2 April 2003, 18:31 »
I consider it one, even though you're right that it is really a kernal.

Who's John Tate? O_o
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« Reply #4 on: 2 April 2003, 18:44 »
quote:
Originally posted by GamerX:
I consider it one, even though you're right that it is really a kernal.


How is it by any stretch of the imagination a programming language?
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« Reply #5 on: 2 April 2003, 19:20 »
GamerX, I liked your, admittedly, passionate post but as others wrote GNU/Linux is NOT by any means a programming language!

It does include GNU/GPL'd developer tools, like the GNU gcc compiler as well as other programming languages like C, C++, Perl, etc, but this fact alone does not make GNU/Linux a programming language!   :eek:  

And also, Linux is correctly just the kernel (and not the kernal) of the operating system and not the whole operating system itself.

Please get your facts straight.

  ;)

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« Reply #6 on: 2 April 2003, 19:58 »
okayokay, we get the idea, it's a kernel not a programming language, but really gamerx, don't you know the difference? it's like saying "ok i know the QE2 is an ocean liner, but i prefer to think of it as a television station". the two things are TOTALLY different. perhaps you mean you think of bash (or whatever shell you use) as a programming language? in this case i can understand what you mean, almost, but bash can run on many operating systems, as can other shells like csh, tcsh, ksh, zsh, ash, sh and others. you can even (by installing the freedos and dosemu packages) get a DOS shell in linux. i can understand why all these could be viewed as programming languages, of course if you wrote a shell script, or batch file as they are called with the DOS shell, they are actually scripting languages, like perl, the difference being that you need to compile a program, whereas you only need to run a script (a script runs from the original source code, a program is a compiled binary).

but as i am saying, your shell is in no way linux. you have probably never interacted more than a few words in total with the actual linux part of your system ever. linux is like the central coordinating part of the brain, the bit that keeps you breathing, stops you shitting yourself and makes you know which way is up and what the difference is between a chair and somebody's lap so you don't get yourself in a total mess. a programming language is like a self help book that lets you understand why you're an angry bastard and deal with why your ex girlfriend thinks you're inconsiderate even when you offered to give her back her television after you broke up. here's a helpful diagram which might illustrate it better:

brain <----------------- a very long way -----------------> self help book
kernel<----------------- a very long way -----------------> programming language

that's my two pence worth anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: 2 April 2003, 20:05 »
Speaking of brains I just saw Hannibal today... will be a full week before I eat meat again...
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« Reply #8 on: 2 April 2003, 20:16 »
i misread your post the first time and i thought you said it would be a full week before you ate brains again.

same difference though when you think about it
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« Reply #9 on: 3 April 2003, 01:45 »
quote:
Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
Truth: Linux isn't a programming language.

   ;)  

pehaps he meant bash scripting? I'm not sure tho.
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« Reply #10 on: 3 April 2003, 01:54 »
Hmm, maybe I am talking about bash? I don't know, I'm new to this shit, give a n00b a break!

Calcum, we all know that QE2 is space ship from Mars! Stop trying to trick us!  
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« Reply #11 on: 3 April 2003, 03:40 »
quote:
Originally posted by GamerX:
Every good Linuxer knows that most Windows games can run on a Linux system with alittle tweaking.


You're kidding, right?

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« Reply #12 on: 3 April 2003, 03:44 »
Linux User is definitely posting as multiple people.
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« Reply #13 on: 3 April 2003, 06:49 »
quote:
Originally posted by X11: crusader for beer:
BASH is not always the best thing to use for scripting. Because it is NON STANDARD in many UNIX systems that use CSH, KSH, SH as DEFAULT which means that your SCRIPT might not run on THOSE PLATFORMS.

Other then that its great.



Don't get me started on csh, my unix class makes us use that on solaris boxes and it stinks.  The up and down arrows don't even cycle through the command history, you have to use the "history" command instead.  Bash rules!!!

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« Reply #14 on: 3 April 2003, 15:12 »
nobody's going to click on a link that claims to be your ass!

also, bash is kind of good in that it's great, but kind of bad in that it's not 100% compatible with sh. still, bash is GPL and a shitload of systems do have it, so get over it.  :D

also, csh seems to me to be totally pointless in this world. i have no idea why it exists or why people continue to use it.
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