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« on: 30 September 2002, 21:03 »
Red Hat 8.0

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« Reply #1 on: 30 September 2002, 21:55 »
there is an article I read at www.distrowatch.com and it is quite critical supposed to be a dissapointment from Redhat 7.3

I love redhat But I am going to wait for RedHat 8.1

I will stick with Mandrake 9.0 for now
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« Reply #2 on: 30 September 2002, 22:20 »
Am downloading RedHat 8.0 now...
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« Reply #3 on: 30 September 2002, 22:37 »
quote:
Originally posted by sAvAgE:
there is an article I read at www.distrowatch.com and it is quite critical supposed to be a dissapointment from Redhat 7.3

I love redhat But I am going to wait for RedHat 8.1

I will stick with Mandrake 9.0 for now



Hmmm, I can't seem to find the review you are referring to. The closest I could find was two reviews on early betas. And they weren't all that bad, even for a beta. Could you point me to the one you are referring to? Of course I will have my own review in a few days.
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« Reply #4 on: 1 October 2002, 00:11 »
Hmmmmmm.... maybe i will wait for your reviews until i get redhat 8.0.
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« Reply #5 on: 1 October 2002, 06:07 »
do broswers use active or passive FTP??
One of the types of FTP wont work through my server, its whatever type command line ftp things use. My broswer can dl from ftp just fine but ncftp and wget cant get anything from ftp servers. Is there any way to get wget to work like the same type of FTp as broswers?? I didnt see anything like that in the man page for wget.
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« Reply #6 on: 1 October 2002, 07:00 »
Passive connections mean the client does all of the initiation of the connection. Sometimes passive connections are required if you are behind a firewall. Non-passive connections are the initial connection is made by the client for login and the data channel (udp) connection is initiated by the server back to the client.

I believe wget normally uses non-passive FTP and according to the wget man page it says to get passive FTP you just add the "--passive-ftp" parameter.

The man page for "ncftpget" says use "-F" to force passive connections. "passive" is the default but if passive times out it normally falls back to normal mode.

If you are using ncftp interactively you can:

ncftp> set passive on

But are you sure this is your problem? Could it be that you have set up your firewall to not allow FTP traffic and you have your web browser configured to use your proxy server for FTP as well as HTTP traffic? I don't have any problems connecting directly through my ipchains firewall for FTP.  You can also set "wget" to go through your proxy either by using command line parameters or configuring it in your .wgetrc file (make a copy of /etc/wgetrc and put it in your home directory as .wgetrc and modify).

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« Reply #7 on: 1 October 2002, 07:05 »
i tried wget through my proxy, this is what makes me think that it may need to be in passive mode.... and it started working with wget using passive mode.

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« Reply #8 on: 1 October 2002, 07:09 »
How did you try and get wget to go through your proxy? Could you give me the command line you used, and the error message it produced?  And what is your "ftp_user" variable set to in your squid.conf, that is, could the FTP server be rejecting your anonymous password that you have configured in Squid?
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« Reply #9 on: 1 October 2002, 07:11 »
it worked with passive mode. My squid FTP user is anonymous.
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« Reply #10 on: 1 October 2002, 07:19 »
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Originally posted by The Master of Reality / Bob:
it worked with passive mode. My squid FTP user is anonymous.


That would be wrong. Squid will connect as anonymous by default but the "ftp_user" variable is misleading, it's actually meant to hold the "password" for the user "anonymous". Normally anonymous FTP servers (at least strict anonymous servers) want an RFC compliant email address as the anonymous password. You could set the ftp_user var to something like "[email protected]".

Now, as far as wget using your proxy server, I am not entirely sure that it will use the proxy for anything other than http transfers. That could easily be tested though. Just set up an anonymous FTP server and check the logs after a wget and see what anonymous password was used. If it matches the one in your Squid configuration then that would mean wget uses Squid for FTP transfers as well (assuming you have proxy configured in your wget config).

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« Reply #11 on: 1 October 2002, 21:30 »
Here's a cool flash presentation that gives a little overview of RedHat 8.0:

http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/flash/redhat6_5.swf
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« Reply #12 on: 2 October 2002, 15:31 »
Ok, finally found a faster mirror and finished downloading RH8. Writing to CDs now...
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« Reply #13 on: 2 October 2002, 16:38 »
fuck, are you serious??!!! I got 180 Kb/s bandwith on the server i dled from.... and that was right when after i posted "i will get it after i hear your reviews"
In fact it took 4 hours for all the images, but then i accidentally deleted one and dled it again in less than 3 hours (started before i went to school, finished before lunch)
The only problem is that i dont hav and CD/R
ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/8.0/en/iso/i386/

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« Reply #14 on: 2 October 2002, 17:07 »
quote:
Originally posted by void main:
Here's a cool flash presentation that gives a little overview of RedHat 8.0:

http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/flash/redhat6_5.swf



I just watched it! Nice presentation but I'd like to see KDE in action as well and not only GNOME 2.0. Looks to me like RedHat is on the right path. Pls let me know what you think of it when you install it