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« on: 17 December 2002, 14:22 »
Well in my boredom, in the last week, I decided to try out Slackware 8.1, FreeBSD 4.7, and Suse Live 8.1. Slackware went on my laptop, FreeBSD went on my old 200mhz monster, and SuSe Live temporarily went on my father's 1.8 ghz Pentium 4 box.

Slackware is as good as I heard, and runs much faster than my Mandrake Linux box. KDE runs smoother and applications opened a lot faster. However I did have trouble getting the sound to work. The install is all text based, but not at all very difficult. I went ahead and installed the 2.4.20 linux kernel on my Slackware laptop, but I had a little difficulty. When I installed the new kernel in Mandrake, a new lilo entry was automatically created. This was not the case in slackware. How do I edit lilo to offer the new kernel option at boot time?

FreeBSD had a very tricky install. For people like Void Main who know their *nix better than I do, it probably wouldnt have been nearly as hard. My main difficulty came in setting up X. After the install was complete, I logged in and typed "startx". At this point the most archaic window manager I had seen in years popped up. I installed sawfish and gnome, so how do I get those up and working?

The SuSE Live evaluation CD showed me that SuSE makes a linux that compares in functionality with Mandrake and Red Hat. It easily detected all of my father's hardware including a USB printer and mouse, a DVD Player, and a 24X cd burner. The only thing it didnt detect however was the network interface card. His computer has a nic that is integrated with the system board. Are integrated nic's known for compatibility problems?

As I write this Im downloading Debian which I will test on my laptop, and OpenBSD which will go on my current FreeBSD box. My goal is to find an OS that will replace Mandrake as my server and desktop. So far Slackware is winning.
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« Reply #1 on: 17 December 2002, 14:48 »
It seems the good people who created openbsd dont offer x86 isos for free, so Im downloading an iso someone else created. Too bad their connection is piss poor and slow.
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« Reply #2 on: 17 December 2002, 17:13 »
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It seems the good people who created openbsd dont offer x86 isos for free, so Im downloading an iso someone else created. Too bad their connection is piss poor and slow.
its like 6 packages you need to download, and a boot floppy image to install it. Or just the floppy image then download the packages while installing.
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« Reply #3 on: 17 December 2002, 17:21 »
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Originally posted by ThePreacher:
Well in my boredom, in the last week, I decided to try out Slackware 8.1, FreeBSD 4.7, and Suse Live 8.1. Slackware went on my laptop, FreeBSD went on my old 200mhz monster, and SuSe Live temporarily went on my father's 1.8 ghz Pentium 4 box.

Slackware is as good as I heard, and runs much faster than my Mandrake Linux box. KDE runs smoother and applications opened a lot faster. However I did have trouble getting the sound to work. The install is all text based, but not at all very difficult. I went ahead and installed the 2.4.20 linux kernel on my Slackware laptop, but I had a little difficulty. When I installed the new kernel in Mandrake, a new lilo entry was automatically created. This was not the case in slackware. How do I edit lilo to offer the new kernel option at boot time?

FreeBSD had a very tricky install. For people like Void Main who know their *nix better than I do, it probably wouldnt have been nearly as hard. My main difficulty came in setting up X. After the install was complete, I logged in and typed "startx". At this point the most archaic window manager I had seen in years popped up. I installed sawfish and gnome, so how do I get those up and working?

The SuSE Live evaluation CD showed me that SuSE makes a linux that compares in functionality with Mandrake and Red Hat. It easily detected all of my father's hardware including a USB printer and mouse, a DVD Player, and a 24X cd burner. The only thing it didnt detect however was the network interface card. His computer has a nic that is integrated with the system board. Are integrated nic's known for compatibility problems?

As I write this Im downloading Debian which I will test on my laptop, and OpenBSD which will go on my current FreeBSD box. My goal is to find an OS that will replace Mandrake as my server and desktop. So far Slackware is winning.


the new kernel will be found in /usr/src/linux-*.*.**/arch/***/bzimage
mv (or cp) the bzimage (which is the kernel) to /boot then edit /etc/lilo.conf and copy your slackware entry and place it below it, then switch the kernel from /boot/vmlinuz to /boot/bzimage
This way you will have to menu items. You can still easily boot of the old kernel if the new one doesnt work.

the program that switches GUIs for Slackware and FreeBSD is "wmconfig" its console based and lets you pick which window manager starts up with X. The dufault i guess was the tab window manager(twm) which is the most basic.

What type of NIC is it?

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« Reply #4 on: 18 December 2002, 00:40 »
I downloaded evil entity linux rather than debian last night. I hope its as good as people around here say.
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« Reply #5 on: 18 December 2002, 02:33 »
I created a small script to switch window managers in slackware.  Basically, for each script in "/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.*" it creates a menu item for it, and displays the menu.  The choice you select will be saved in "~/.wmrc" and a symlink is created from the executable script -> "~/.xinitrc".  then it runs "startx" which first looks for "~/.xinitrc" and runs it.  The next time it is run, "~/.wmrc" is used to set the default menu selection.  It can be deleted safely (I haven' t mod'd it yet to check for errors).  If you have an original "~/.xinitrc" it is moved to "~/.xinitrc.old" and moved back upon exiting the window manager.

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drop it in "/usr/local/bin"; call it "x" for kicks.

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