Best Browser for OSX...

[TheGreatPoo]

Hello all,

I downloaded and installed Mozilla 1.1.1 on my g/f's computer (iMac) running OSX Jaguar.  Lately it has been crashing and has almost brought the entire system down a couple of times.  I don't know personally what goes wrong (as I don't live with her and am trying to explain this from what she has told me) but she told me that it pretty much freezes up everything but the mouse (with the little color wheel spinnie thingie).

Anyway, I was going to help her install another browser on her computer and was wonderin which one I should choose.  I like the features that Mozilla has (pop-up stopper, blocking pics, etc.) but would like something smaller and faster as her iMac is only a 4000MHz G3.  What about Chimera?  Opera?

Also, how would I go about uninstalling Mozilla?  I am pretty new to OSX (I'm a classic user myself    ) and don't know the runabouts.  What I do in Classic is: open Sherlock2, search the HD for all files containing the name of the program, select all, and move to trash.  Is there another way in OSX?

Any help is appreaciated very much and rewared with a cookie!  

[psyjax]

Chimera, plain and simple.

Chimera is the best browser available for the Mac. It is Coco native, which mean's it's incredibly fast. It has most of the features you mentiond from mozilla as well as many others. It is also only 6MB.

To remove mozilla just drag it's folder to the trash. To be thurogh, run Find->mozilla. You should dig up it's application support folder. Dump it as well. Done.

Install Chimera and your off. I haven't gone back to Mozilla since Chimera 0.6.

[TheGreatPoo]

Just what I needed to know.  

Thank you!!  

[cocoamix]

Another vote for Chimera. I haven't used anything else since 0.5 came out.

It's only at 0.6 now, and it just gets better and better. I hope they add real support for browsing history. I have it enabled via a hack, but it's really slow to call up your History in the sidebar. Since it's at yet unsupported, I can't complain too much, esp considering how good it is otherwise.
I just wish they'd add a few Mozilla features like the Site Info option, in addition to site source.
It allows to to grab and save any media from a site, including all embedded swf files, images and sounds.

[Pantso]

I have to agree about Chimera. It is by far the best and fastest browser for OS X and eventhough it's only in version 0.6, it is really stable and as I said blindingly fast.      

As far as Mozilla goes, I'm using 1.2.1 right now, which seems a lot more stable than the previous version but, unfortunately, still crashes from time to time.

To uninstall Mozilla, just drag the Mozilla folder to the trash and also take a look at the /Users/~someone/Library/Application Support folder for another Mozilla folder and remove it as well. I think the latter one is being used by Mozilla to store your cache, profile etc.    

[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: hoojchoons: Mac Commando ]

[TheGreatPoo]

Thank you guys!  Chimera it is!!!  

[rtgwbmsr]

Check out iCab:
http://www.icab.de/

[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: The Muffin Man ]

[psyjax]

iCab is Payware/adware

I also have found it MORE incompatible than Chimera. Chimera even works with my bank and Credit card pages which usualy deny mozilla.

I love Chimera  

[Pissed_Macman]

I had the little wheelie freeze thing happen to me a lot when I used to use IE, especially while editing my site, but I don't recall it happening once after I switched to Mozilla. Weird.

[billy_gates]

I have to admin that I have defected to Chimera.
I used to be a dihard Omniweb user.

There are 3 things that make Chimera better, page rendering time, tabbed browsing, popup blocker.  On everything else that comes to browsing the net Omniweb wins.
I just can't get past the speed thing

Omniweb looks far better in terms of buttons and antialiasing.
Omniweb can render pages better
Omniweb can fake other Web Browsers (very useful with MS sites)
Omniweb feels less Beta-ey
Omniweb is more stable
My fav - Omniweb saves your window size on your command and all new windows open to that size.  Not like others where they open to the size that was last open.

[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: Billy Gates: Mac Commando ]

[Pissed_Macman]

I've heard good things about Chimera. What is its specialty though? Why did the makers of Mozilla decide to make a different browser?

[MacUser3of5]

Chimera is more scaled back/lightweight than mozilla... just compare download sizes...

Also, the Chimera group, since they're OS X-only, is paying extra attention to getting it work nicely with X (much better than Mozilla at the moment, UI-wise). All around, I prefer it, although I would rather use Omniweb, but that's too damn slow on my dialup connection.

[Calum]

icab is one to steer clear of. Not tried it in OSX, but in MacOS9 it kept crashing for me and it also seems to me to try for MSIE compliance rather than proper standards compliance.

One day i hope i can try chimera too, but it requires a lot of expensive hardware and software that i can't afford!

[TheGreatPoo]

Well, now that my girlfriend's computer is taken care of (Chimera), what do you guys suggest as a fast browser for Mac Classic?

Mozilla is HUGE and really slow on my performa but I love it's features!  I've tried iCab but it is too buggy and it makes pages look funny (rendering?).  Any ideas?  I'm thinkin about loadin in my OS 9.1 CD and installing Netscape Navigator 4.x <--(can't remember the exact version).  That browser is blindingly fast on the Mac but kinna like iCab, it renders pages funny, i guess because it's old.   :confused:

[psyjax]

Netscape 4.x is good for old comp's.

But as I recall there was an old browser that was fast and lightwieght... I can't remember it. It reminded me of Arachne.

hmmm... webcrawler or something.

Oh well,

Anyway, Macman, Chimera is programmed in CoCo. Which means it is optamized for OSX and the G4, Which means it is the fastest freakin browser you will ever use in your life. It is also more compatible than mozilla, much smaller, and renders pages better.

Also, since it dosn't dpend on all that bulky Java, the UI is quicker and better looking.