GAH! How could she do this to me? (Mac Related)

[Novablas]

So I'm in 8th grade and it's almost the end of the year. We have one more report card to get and it appears I have been slacking off. So to encouarge me my mom made this deal, If I get at all A's and B's she'll buy me any mac I want EXCEPT the $3,800 G4 (for obvious reasons, too expensive plus you dont even get a monitor)

So since I have an iMac SuperDrive right now I figured I wanna get the newest iMac. 1 Ghz, 80 gig hard drive, GeForce 4, the works. OR, should I spring for the "Fastest" (not ultimate) G4 which has less ram i think but a higher processing speed? Which mac should I get guys? Man I hope I get those grades... BTW I am not a rich bastard Im just spoiled. I'm hispanic living in Pilsen (not too good but not too bad neigborhood)

-EDIT-
Keep in mind that I think space may be a problem so I dont know where the G4 tower would go...

[ June 01, 2003: Message edited by: Novablas ]

[bossesjoe]

Personally I'd go with the Powermac, why?

More processor speed, its hard to upgrade this, and the Powermac has an L3 and a higher system bus. Even though it has less ram, Powermacs are really, really, really easy to upgrade, so you can max the ram out later. About the moniter I would just use and old one or find away to use your iMac's screen instead.

EDIT: About space, I have no idea, but the tower is actually not that big.

[ June 01, 2003: Message edited by: bossesjoe ]

[TheQuirk]

quote:Originally posted by Novablas:
I'm hispanic

Oh, you're hispanic? I think there's a pretty strict hispanics-are-not-allowed-to-use-Macs policy over at Apple.

Seriously, though, why does this matter?

[Pissed_Macman]

I think he was just giving us a description of himself.

[psyjax]

Hey, I'm Hispanic too! Welcome...err. ya...

ummmm, anyway.

I would get a low end tower. You can spend some extra money on the screen, it's worth it in the long run. When that iMac goes out of date tehre will be nothing left to do but to hawk it. The G4 tower will be viable fo a much longer timeframe as you are able to upgrade most of it's components along with the tide of technology. Not to mention that one part breaking isin't gonna destroy the whole computer since it can allways be replaced.

Stick with teh tower, iMac's suck and allways have.

Damn... I feel bad saying that wile posting from my AMD box under Win98 no les!!! Oh shame on me  

Well... at least I'm running firebird and long ago got rid of IE via IErradicator.

Only reason I'm in windows now is cuz Im porting the latest build of my game to SDL under Dev C++. Fun fun fun!!!!

oh ya....

Get a tower, that's it, no question. Even the lowest end tower will be better than an iMac.

[billy_gates]

a tower.  Make sure u get the best vid card.  My G4733 with Radeon 7500 can't run Warcraft III smoothly with res at 640x480 and all graphics all the way down, and just started the game in my base, empty.  So get the best video card and dual cpu's then maybe games will play OK.

[gump420]

My iMac G4 800 with it's GeForce 2 MX runs Warcraft III passably well.  However, keep in mind that WIII has some pretty inflated system requirements due to everything being 3d rendered.

I hear a lot of angst against the iMac, though.  The way I figure it, my computer has plenty enough get-up-and-go to last me until well after it's been totally outdated, at which point I will be able to afford replacing it outright.  Yeah, I don't get to upgrade one piece at a time, but face it - no matter what you do there will come a day when your tower has been outdated to the point that you pretty much must replace it to stay current.  So, from my perspective, I'm just saving money, so    

Seriously, I personally think the tower vs. all-in-one debate comes down to a lot of personal opinion rather than cut and dry facts.  In any case, if you can find room for a tower, you may even want to check out 2khappyware.com for a cheap alternative to that PowerMac G4 that's virtually just as upgradeable (not quite as current with technology, but not all that bad considering the price).

In any case, I own one of the first "new iMac" models (top of the line at the time, 800Mhz plus Superdrive), and I love it.  I vote iMac!!!

Oh, and to answer "how could she do this to [you]"?  She's your Mom.  Mom's always know how to bribe, I mean *cough* motivate, their children! 8)

[ June 02, 2003: Message edited by: maghor ]

[Novablas]

I love my mac now too but I want it to play War3 flawlessly on the highest setting. It barely runs decently on my iMac 800 G4 Superdrive (yes I had to say it again cuz I luv it!)

It also doesnt play Unreal Tournament 2003 well. Also I WANT a GeForce 4 MX. =D

ALSO! 20 gigs more hard drive space! ALSO! almost 2 times as much ram as I have now. I only have 512 RAM after buying 256 more. This one comes with 1 GIG!

ALSO! I want the bigger screen!

ALSO! I finally want to own a comp that breaks the Mhz line! What better comp to do it with than the Supa l337 iMac! I have had iMacs since they first came out. I had the bondi one (which kinda sucked) the blueberry one (which was good for its time) then another blueberry one but had more mhz and ram. Then my BEE YOU TEA FULL iMac that I am using now. And hopefully that next cool ass mac. yay! macs!

hmm...what else can I say also too...

OH YEAH!

ALSO!!!!! My mom gave me a $4000 spending limit (I heart you graduation) so I wanna get an iMac, 15 gig iPod (W00T!!!!!), Digital Camera (w00t!), Scanner (eh.), cool ass printer! (w00t!), .Mac (cool!), Warranty (you can never be without a good warranty), a Cordless Optical mouse with a base for recharging (w00tness!), an Ethernet Hub (yess!), a UFO iMac base thingy (it looks cool!!), some DVD-R's (yay from apple!), and finally a ethernet cable (can't be without one)

BUT! IF I got the G4, I'd get the G4 and that's it! So NOW what would you guys do? Pretend that you have none of the stuff on my list and you dont own either computer.

[psyjax]

4000 buks!

Easy dude, Get the Maxd out G4 tower. plain and simple no question. You can upgrade the RAM past two gigs (DDR none the less), you can have more than one HD, the standard is 12MB, and the card is a FUll on GeForce 4Ti (not a crappy MX, wich is basicaly an overcloced GeForce II).

Fuck the scanner and all that shit, you can get those later on your own budget, second hand, or at used places. ('cept the camera, thats good). Use the money to get a nice Monitor, a Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 19" inch is my Fav. Monitor right now. I realy love those, nice and crisp.

That's what I would get. That machine ain't going out of style anytime soon. Proc. Upgrades, GFX card replacement, etc. will keep it top of the line for a while. Also, your not considering the simple fact that when it comes to 3d games Proc. speed means little. A 600Mhz G4 witha GeForce FX or something (if the Mac's had em     ) would run WCIII blindingly. Which is another argument for a tower, UPGRADING THE DAMN VIDEO! not integrated. Not to mention PCI slots. etc. etc. etc.

Get the tower, fogoe the rest. You will be happier.

[ June 04, 2003: Message edited by: psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax ]

[Pissed_Macman]

I wish my parents would give me a 4000 buck spending limit. Of course, after the 4000 dollars was gone I probably would still be without a computer.

[ravuya]

quote:Originally posted by Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS:
I wish my parents would give me a 4000 buck spending limit. Of course, after the 4000 dollars was gone I probably would still be without a computer.

I'm reminded of the story where the guy walks into a computer store, promptly buys the most expensive version of every perhipheral, and then returns them all because they "don't plug in right".

Turns out he had everything but the actual computer.  

[bedouin]

You could get a nice PowerMac and Studio/Cinema Display for your price range.  And like the others said, it's totally upgradable.  Hmm, if your limit is for $3000 you might as well claim you need some other accessories as well (like an Ipod or something).  Just an idea.

I find it amusing your parents think getting a few A's is worth blowing $3000 on though.  Well, something to brag about at the PTA meetings I guess.  How shallow.

[Novablas]

not just for A's. I'm graduating!

[M51DPS]

My parents don't have the money to buy me a G4 right now (there's the bigger project of home improvement, like a new roof and kitchen), so i'm working on upgrading some old ones (PowerMac 5500/225 and PowerMac 8500/150). One of them will eventually be running Yellow Dog Linux, while the other will still use Mac OS 9.1. Could someone just give me $4000? I'd really appreciate it.

[Pissed_Macman]

quote:Originally posted by Ravuya:


I'm reminded of the story where the guy walks into a computer store, promptly buys the most expensive version of every perhipheral, and then returns them all because they "don't plug in right".

Turns out he had everything but the actual computer.    

Actually I'd probably just spend it on drugs, weapons, and devil music.