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« on: 5 November 2002, 00:13 »

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« Reply #1 on: 5 November 2002, 00:28 »
My question is whether the vulnerabilities have to do with the applications or the OS itself. For instance, are the apache and ssh vulnerabilities listed as linux vulnerabilities even though they can be on multiple different systems?
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« Reply #2 on: 5 November 2002, 00:32 »
It's not very clear whether the author of this article is talking about Mac OS or OS X. Mac OS is a lot more safe than OS X and other Unix variants. Whatever...

Refalm, I can already see XP luser and Zombie using the "more popular OS -> more attacks" argument once more.   :D

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« Reply #3 on: 5 November 2002, 00:41 »
The thing about this is that this is a battle of safety between Mac OS X, Linux, SCO Unix and BSD...

Windows is losing big time acording to the article

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« Reply #4 on: 5 November 2002, 00:50 »
I really don't like that document. It stinks with biased panic about security writing. This is a security firm that is making these statements, and it offers no where near the clarification of it's business practices to remove what I am seeing as self interest.

Now closer examination suggest this was a server analysis. It seems to be more about company security, about records access. So should I be able to ignore this as a desktop security analyis? Like was said before, what are the breakdowns of the analysis in more comparable terms? It's all too ambiguous for me to take too seriously.

However if it is server based then M$ loose big time, over 50% of attacks, and what an estimated 25 to 30% of the market (this is a figure that was quoted in this forum as coming from netcraft - anyone who can correct this please do)

And this seems to not involve attacks that were just plain Virii.
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« Reply #5 on: 5 November 2002, 01:08 »
Ive said it before and Ill say it again, the number of vulnerabilities in a system is irrelevant. It doesnt matter if its a MS, *nix, or Mac system. The only thing important is how fast errors are found and patched, and the competence of the system administrator.
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« Reply #6 on: 5 November 2002, 01:28 »
quote:
Originally posted by pkd:
However if it is server based then M$ loose big time, over 50% of attacks, and what an estimated 25 to 30% of the market (this is a figure that was quoted in this forum as coming from netcraft - anyone who can correct this please do)



Windows has a whooping 49% of the server market now. Windows has been getting stronger and stronger in the server market over the years. Windows is slowly replacing Unix. Linux is even starting to replace Unix(Linux has like 25% of the server market).

I didn't know Windows was doing so well in the server market until I came across  
this article. I think that the writer of the article got the quotes from IDC.

It is pretty bad that Unix and Linux are losing the battle in thier own field(we all know that *nix is best suited for servers).

[ November 04, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]


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« Reply #7 on: 5 November 2002, 01:57 »
quote:
Originally posted by Zombie9920:


Windows has a whooping 49% of the server market now. Windows has been getting stronger and stronger in the server market over the years. Windows is slowly replacing Unix. Linux is even starting to replace Unix(Linux has like 25% of the server market).

I didn't know Windows was doing so well in the server market until I came across  
this article. I think that the writer of the article got the quotes from IDC.

It is pretty bad that Unix and Linux are losing the battle in thier own field(we all know that *nix is best suited for servers).

[ November 04, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]



http://netcraft.com/survey/




Developer September 2002 Percent October 2002 Percent Change
Apache 10449418 64.85 10470848 65.39 0.54
Microsoft 4071863 25.27 4013397 25.06 -0.21
iPlanet 237802 1.48 227424 1.42 -0.06
Zeus 220729 1.37 215957 1.35 -0.02

[ November 04, 2002: Message edited by: bazoukas ]

Yeah

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« Reply #8 on: 5 November 2002, 02:06 »
quote:
Originally posted by bazoukas:


http://netcraft.com/survey/




Developer September 2002 Percent October 2002 Percent Change
Apache 10449418 64.85 10470848 65.39 0.54
Microsoft 4071863 25.27 4013397 25.06 -0.21
iPlanet 237802 1.48 227424 1.42 -0.06
Zeus 220729 1.37 215957 1.35 -0.02

[ November 04, 2002: Message edited by: bazoukas ]



Ehhh? There are alot more uses for a server than just hosting website(netcraft surveys by connecting to http sites). What about all of the servers that are used as a FTP sever(for storage space)...what about servers that are used only as a dedicated gaming server(like UT, Q3, etc. serv ers)...what about the servers that are used as a method to connect to P2P networks(like the E-Donkey servers)..what about the servers that are used as an IRC server, etc.

Measuring marketshare only by checking http sites is an innacurate way of knowing what OS is mainly used onall servers in the world.

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« Reply #9 on: 6 November 2002, 02:03 »
quote:
Originally posted by Zombie9920:

Measuring marketshare only by checking http sites is an innacurate way of knowing what OS is mainly used onall servers in the world.




Yeah, we should all just ask you instead.

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« Reply #10 on: 6 November 2002, 11:36 »
quote:
Originally posted by Panos:

Refalm, I can already see XP luser and Zombie using the "more popular OS -> more attacks" argument once more.    :D  



hmm.. well, that arguement probably wont hold because hackers dont care what OS you have (most the time) but that IS a good point... there is a bigger chance someone will find an error in mn (micro-nazism: new word for ms) because more people use it. Notice i said FIND, because we all KNOW there full of problems and holes in there OS's, because the shit is oozing out of those holes. anyways, ive never REALLY used mac.. i dont like them because i think there big etch-a-sketches, but as i said, i dont use them much.
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mn- micro-nazism - from the post comparing Gates to Hitler. I did not make up this term, "micro-nazism", i merely use it.