Are you Tired of all the Microsoft Bashing Yet?

[Zombie9920]

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3202

By the looks of the Activewin poll "Are you tired of the Microsoft bashing"....most people are sick of it.
http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=17135&Group=1

How will Linux ever overtake MS when most people prefer using Windows? Only a small handful of people hate MS. The majority of people will continue to use MS products for a long time to come. ;P

[slave]

What an inane article.


 

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The truth is, Linux just doesn't have the install/uninstall abilities that Windows does. And I'm sorry but re-compiling the kernel for what ever reason just doesn't make it. We don't even need to mention the fact that most users in a call center are much more familiar with Windows which makes it easier to train them. Do we even bother getting into the issue of driver support for Linux which doesn?t match Windows?

1. With Linux, installing programs is easier.  It's so easy you don't even *need* a wizard.  In Mandrake I just click "install software" and select what I want.  It solves all the deps for me.

2. You never need to recompile the kernel unless you use Gentoo or something.

3. Linux supported my cd-rw out of the box, Windows XP didn't

The list goes on.

I installed Xp the other day so I could play a couple of games that don't work on wine.  I was amazed at how badly it sucked.  It mysteriously rebooted every 20-30 minutes -- and this was with a fresh install!  I thought it was my hardware at first but then I rebooted into Linux and it stayed on for 8 hours with no crashing.  Linux may suck in certain places, but from my experience Windows sucks harder and more often.

Personally I don't bash Microsoft more than any other proprietary software company.  But they are the illegal monopoly, their software frequently sucks, so it makes them an easy target.  Not to mention Steve Ballmer is insane...

As for that poll, well what do you expect from a website called "ActiveWin.com"?

[flap]

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3202

By the looks of the Activewin poll "Are you tired of the Microsoft bashing"....most people are sick of it.
http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=17135&Group=1

How will Linux ever overtake MS when most people prefer using Windows? Only a small handful of people hate MS. The majority of people will continue to use MS products for a long time to come. ;P

[Siplus]

quote: Are you Tired of all the Microsoft Bashing Yet?

not untill they are no longer the dominant operating system producer in the computer industry

[Zombie9920]

Your computer mysteriously reboots every 20-30 minutes? Question. Do you have a good quality 350w or better PSU(assuming you have a P4/Athlon w/GF3 or better or Radeon 8500 or better video card)? Random restarts are usually caused by a PSU that isn't giving adequate power to 1 or more of the rails. Generic PSU's are notorious for not giving enough to the 12v+ rail(even 450w generics).

The reason it would restart in Windows and not in Linux is because Windows actually uses your hardware to the full potential that it was designed for. When the hardware is being used the way it is supposed to be used it will consume the power that it was designed to consume.

Also, if you do have a generic high wattage PSU or a low wattage generic or name brand PSU...do you have a shitload of fans and drives connected to it? The consume power too you know.

Random restarts are normally a PSU issue...not a Windows fault. Windows problems can often be fixed or prevented if you know what the hell you are doing.


Go pick up a 350w or higher Antec PSU(Antec PSU's deliver adequate power to all of the rails) and see if you get random restarts.

[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

[slave]

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Your computer mysteriously reboots every 20-30 minutes? Question. Do you have a good quality 350w or better PSU

I have an Antec 430w PSU.

   

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The reason it would restart in Windows and not in Linux is because Windows actually uses your hardware to the full potential that it was designed for. When the hardware is being used the way it is supposed to be used it will consume the power that it was designed to consume.

Actually Windows is compiled with i386 flags so it will be compatible with older processors.  On Tom's Hardware they installed XP on a 486, although it ran painfully slow it did run.  At least Mandrake is compiled for i586 machines.  And my Red Hat installation has a lot of stuff compiled by me with athlon-xp flags (such as the kernel)  Linux has never, ever crashed on this computer.  Even after 5 hours of playing Warcraft III.  In fact, my uptime was 20 days until I rebooted to install XP.  Mind you XP would crash while browsing the web, not playing games or anything.

   

quote:Also, if you do have a generic high wattage PSU or a low wattage generic or name brand PSU...do you have a shitload of fans and drives connected to it? The consume power too you know.

I have an Antec case with a TruePower  power supply, and it is very quiet and stable.  I have a cathode light that's about it...  I have about 3 fans, but I don't consider it overkill.  I checked my CPU temp in the BIOS and it seems just fine.

   

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Random restarts are normally a PSU issue...not a Windows fault. Windows problems can often be fixed or prevented if you know what the hell you are doing.

Seeing as how I built this computer, I think I know what I'm doing.

   

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Go pick up a 350w or higher Antec PSU(Antec PSU's deliver adequate power to all of the rails) and see if you get random restarts.

Naw, that would be a downgrade.

Thank you for the suggestions but I don't think it is a hardware problem -- It's a software problem.

[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: Linux User #5225982375 ]

[Siplus]

no, i do not reboot every 20mins...i have to give credit to microsoft for stopping that habit with the release of win2k. but programs still run slow in any windows, and do not in linux.

i build my own computers (cept my laptop), so as with linux user, i know what i'm doing

[TheQuirk]

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
Are you tired of the Microsoft bashing

Yup. To each his own, I say.If you prefer Windows, don't let me stop you. You probably have your reasons.

[Pissed_Macman]

quote:How will Linux ever overtake MS when most people prefer using Windows? Only a small handful of people hate MS. The majority of people will continue to use MS products for a long time to come. ;P

Well, the Roman Empire fell.

Zombie, you really need to click here

[Faust]

Let me put it this way:
I am on a public (Mac OSX) computer.
I have a choice between IE and netscape.
As I am using netscape I do not have the protection against scripts that Mozilla provides.
Conclusion : YOU BITCH!
(nice site though)

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:

The reason it would restart in Windows and not in Linux is because Windows actually uses your hardware to the full potential that it was designed for.

Windows uses your hardware to the full potential it was designed for.... and as a result it will crash.... right.

[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]

[Faust]

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:

The reason it would restart in Windows and not in Linux is because Windows actually uses your hardware to the full potential that it was designed for.

That must be why i crank far more frames per second out of my graphics card in linuxt than I do in Windows...  Oh no wait that was the complete opposite of what you just said, sorry!            

[Faust]

Also my soundblaster live uses the same drivers (emu10k) in linux as it does in windows.

Are you trying to say that theres a special MS feature that "helps the drivers along?"  A little "clippy" that "rewrites the drivers as they go" sort of thing?"  Bah!

And my second network card actually works under Linux "out of the box" instead of with windows how I have to find and download some extremely well hidden drivers...  and no, the stupid "search for drivers automatically" thing doesnt work...  nor is my card featured in the little driver list that MS give me when I choose to add hardware...

Quit making shit up if you have no evidence!

[jtpenrod]

quote:By the looks of the Activewin poll "Are you tired of the Microsoft bashing"....most people are sick of it.

Yes, that's true. But every time I get sick of it, Microsoft just goes off and does something utterly foolish and bash-able.              

quote:How will Linux ever overtake MS when most people prefer using Windows? Only a small handful of people hate MS.

Then how do you explain this:  

quote:Tracking the anti-Microsoft movement since 1997, the MSBC Superlist now links to more than 160 Web sites and nearly two-dozen Usenet groups. The sheer size of this list proves that overall public sentiment towards Microsoft ranges from mild dislike to outright rage, and the number of people opposing the company grows by the day. Next time your Windows PC locks up and loses hours of hard work, remember that you are not alone. Then come here and join us in some good-natured venting. MSBC Super List

             

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[ April 07, 2003: Message edited by: jtpenrod ]

[Faust]

X11 are you tired of being a fuckwit yet?
I don't see Zombie personally insulting *you* so shut the fuck up.  I mean I disagree with his opinion too but that doesn't mean I'm childish and stupid enough to resort to personal attacks.  If you disagree give an explanation of your reasons why then back it up with evidence!
I would rather read Zombies polite posts that I disagree with than the childish crap that you post little boy.