Hmmm, this is interesting. Do you Linux gurus care to explain?

[voidmain]

Oh, speaking of that web server that I mentioned having 490 days of uptime before the extended power outage at the NOC it is housed in is back up to 223 days. So if it were not for the power outage it would have 713 days of uptime right now. And this is a *heavily* utilized machine. It never would have shown 713 days though because it would have wrapped back to 0 at just under 500 days. So there are quite probably Linux servers with uptimes in the range of the top 50 but would never show up. You'll need a 2.5 or higher kernel so the uptime will not wrap. I forget what the new limit is. Something like 100,000 years or more if I remember right. Good luck trying to get PC garbage to run that long, but maybe on an UltraSparc.  

[voidmain]

A couple of other things I noticed about this Windows machine. It's only been charted for the last two months so who knows what fiddling has been done on it. I suspect it only really has two months of uptime and if it has been fiddled with then it could have been rebooted countless times within that two month period and not show it in the graph. Also, regarding these BSD boxes that are at the top of the list. It's interesting the number of days the #1 system when the graph starts. You tell me that's not suspicious:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.yamagata-cci.or.jp

I smell a Debian devil.

At least it's been graphing for over 2 years unlike the Windows box...

[psyjax]

Hehe, OSX has 3 mentions all higher than the Win2000 server. But then again OSX can be considered BSD as well  

[Zombie9920]

quote:Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
Hehe, OSX has 3 mentions all higher than the Win2000 server. But then again OSX can be considered BSD as well    

Thats right. As I said, the high uptime servers are dominated by BSD. ;P

[voidmain]

Heh heh, how long as OSX been out?    I wonder if there was any fiddling with this one:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=binomial.dhs.org

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
Thats right. As I said, the high uptime servers are dominated by BSD. ;P

You mean the high "fiddling" is dominated by BSD.

[Zombie9920]

quote:Originally posted by void main:
A couple of other things I noticed about this Windows machine. It's only been charted for the last two months so who knows what fiddling has been done on it. I suspect it only really has two months of uptime and if it has been fiddled with then it could have been rebooted countless times within that two month period and not show it in the graph. Also, regarding these BSD boxes that are at the top of the list. It's interesting the number of days the #1 system when the graph starts. You tell me that's not suspicious:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.yamagata-cci.or.jp

I smell a Debian devil.

At least it's been graphing for over 2 years unlike the Windows box...

I really don't think that the thing has been fiddled with d00d. Plain and simple, if the uptime meter says it has been up for xxx days it has been up for xxx days. Can't you just accept the fact that it is possible for Windows to be stable and it is possible for Windows to be up for a loooong time with no reboots? Neither Win2K nor Windows XP have ever given me a lick of stability problems(I've had my systems up for 6+ months with no problems). The only time I *ever* have to reboot is when I update drivers or when I choose to install Windows updates(which isn't very often).

Why fix it if it isn't broken?

[Zombie9920]

quote:Originally posted by void main:
Heh heh, how long as OSX been out?     I wonder if there was any fiddling with this one:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=binomial.dhs.org

The first release of OSX was out before Windows XP reached RC2 as far as I know. So it has been out for a while now. How is it possible to cheat your uptime anyways?

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
Can't you just accept the fact that it is possible for Windows to be stable and it is possible for Windows to be up for a loooong time with no reboots?

No I can't, because it isn't a fact.

 

quote:
 Neither Win2K nor Windows XP have ever given me a lick of stability problems(I've had my systems up for 6+ months with no problems). The only time I *ever* have to reboot is when I update drivers or when I choose to install Windows updates(which isn't very often).

Why fix it if it isn't broken?

Because if you don't install the updates, it is broken. Can't you accept the fact that you can not put a Windows machine (any Windows machine) on the network exposing IIS without updating it regularly? If you don't you will be 0wn3d in 2.3 seconds.

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:



The first release of OSX was out before Windows XP reached RC2 as far as I know. So it has been out for a while now. How is it possible to cheat your uptime anyways?

There are several ways to do it, I figured out one way if you could read the link I posted earlier in this thread. And like I said, there's no way of telling what OS is running on the machine that claims to be a Win2k machine, let alone how long it has really been up. I have proved that the Netcraft results are FAR from reliable.

And are you blind when it comes to looking at the graph in that OSX link? And look at the OS history. This guy is "obvoiusly" spoofing is OS and uptime.

Would you be happier if I made my Linux machine show up as OSX rather than Solaris 8 like it does now?

Or better yet, how about if I make it show up as Windows XP with 10,000 days of uptime? How much would that prove?

[ January 22, 2003: Message edited by: void main ]

[choasforages]

hey, an oddity manages to get through every once and a while, 1 win2k box on the top 50 and how many unix systems are listed, not to mention its on number 45.if it wasn't for the 500 day rollover, alot more linux systems would be up on the list.

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:



The first release of OSX was out before Windows XP reached RC2 as far as I know. So it has been out for a while now. How is it possible to cheat your uptime anyways?

void main spoofed his server ID, and he spoofed the uptime. If I come across the thread, I will link to it.

OS X has been out for around since June/July/August '01...less than 1.5 years. The uptime on that server is for about 3.6 years. OS X wasn't around in mid '99.

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by The Muffin Man:


void main spoofed his server ID, and he spoofed the uptime. If I come across the thread, I will link to it.

OS X has been out for around since June/July/August '01...less than 1.5 years. The uptime on that server is for about 3.6 years. OS X wasn't around in mid '99.

Just like there hasn't been an internet connected Win2k/IIS machine that has been up for 2 years straight. It is nothing more than people playing games with Netcraft.

[Kintaro]

Even uptimes.wonko.com can be cheated (i did it, and got deleted). I used netcat (nc) to say a Machine with Linux 2.4.19 has 0% idle 995 load and 40 years uptime.