Author Topic: CNN Breaking News: Iraq! (Read 1712 times)

voidmain · « **Reply #30 on:** 18 January 2003, 10:24 »

Chaos, have you been skipping school? The president is the "Commander in Chief". He gives the red/green light. The commanders execute plans that they have devised to achieve a specific objective or set of objectives. Bush would have a high level knowlege of them but he certainly doesn't make the detailed plans. He just says "go" or "don't go". Read your constitution under the section titled "Executive Branch" (Article II, Section 2).

[ January 18, 2003: Message edited by: void main ]

choasforages · « **Reply #31 on:** 18 January 2003, 10:35 »

yes he is the commander in cheif, i guess its more of an issue witht he medias wording. and i thought congress is supposed to declare war before we go kick their ass's and get rid of saddam/*like we should have years ago*/

voidmain · « **Reply #32 on:** 18 January 2003, 10:39 »

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Originally posted by chaosforages:
well, so far the U.S. has been attacking countrys that arn't that powerfull. i wonder why we are not so enthusiastic about going to war with north korea.........
/*yes i have a few theorys, but maybe i don't like china*/

Read your history book. Ever hear of the "Korean War"? And when we kicked Iraq out of Kuwait Iraq was considered to have one of the worlds most powerful military. Korea is definitely a problem that needs to be dealt with. I believe this one has a better chance of being resolved diplomatically. If not they will need to be dealt with. South Korea was ready to kick us out until this little "Nukes in N. Korea" thing came up. Now I just heard they wanted to sign us on to stay for another 50 years. Interesting...

voidmain · « **Reply #33 on:** 18 January 2003, 10:41 »

quote:
Originally posted by chaosforages:
yes he is the commander in cheif, i guess its more of an issue witht he medias wording. and i thought congress is supposed to declare war before we go kick their ass's and get rid of saddam/*like we should have years ago*/

I guess you haven't been been following it. Congress authorized the use of force several months back which gives Bush the green light if the green light is necessary. Our forces wouldn't be heading over there right now if that were not the case.

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TheQuirk · « **Reply #34 on:** 18 January 2003, 12:55 »

BTW, N. Korea has something like 300 (or maybe more, I don't remember) pieces of artilery at the border with S. Korea that can each shoot the capital of S. Korea without moving them an inch. So just bombing N. Korea would not be very fun for the S. Koreans (and for us, if that nuke they have really works (it's one thing to make one, but it's another to make it work))

DC · « **Reply #35 on:** 18 January 2003, 13:24 »

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Originally posted by chaosforages:
but we are doing it wrong, we give to much of a shit about the arabs, you know how i know, we save their sorry ass's every time isreal gets ready to beat them all down. and we are trying to goto war with the arabs, but keeping isreal from kicking their ass's. this doesn't make sense to me/*note, replace arab if you are offended, with muslim extremist*/

This is off-topic and trollish probably, but I'll bite. You call it 'saving asses' if you give Israel weapons and tell them to go easy with them if they're utterly destroying the arabs in the region? I call that 'saving asses' too - of the Israeli, that is.

Void main, every nuke/chem/bio warhead is equally dangerous, no matter who has them. Making Saddam give them up is good - AFTER you establish they have them - but the US is not in the position to ask that since they HAVE them themselves. Besides, who controls the nuke-countries? I don't see Iraqi inspectors snooping around US nuke facilities.
And Void Main, these days Iraq does cooperate with the international community. The fact that Bush says he doesn't doesn't prove he doesn't, you know.
Do you know the governments the US helped into power the last few decennia? Those were not democracies. They were US-friendly dictatorships.

TheQuirk, Nukes are easy. If you have the nucleair fuel, it's trivial to make a simple nuke. Bigger nukes are more intricate, but expect the nuke to work if they have it.

voidmain · « **Reply #36 on:** 18 January 2003, 14:38 »

Ok, this is getting nowhere, I can't believe I entered the discussion in the first place as I try very hard to stay out of them. They always turn out the same way, a lot of people arguing about things they know nothing about. How about this, I will throw out the white flag and sign a peace treaty....

KernelPanic · « **Reply #37 on:** 18 January 2003, 16:39 »

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Originally posted by void main:
Ok, this is getting nowhere, I can't believe I entered the discussion in the first place as I try very hard to stay out of them. They always turn out the same way, a lot of people arguing about things they know nothing about. How about this, I will throw out the white flag and sign a peace treaty....

Tux was wise and quit early, this is no place for politcis...

cahult · « **Reply #38 on:** 18 January 2003, 19:45 »

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Originally posted by Tux:

Tux was wise and quit early, this is no place for politcis...

Let

Nobber · « **Reply #39 on:** 19 January 2003, 04:45 »

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Originally posted by cahult:
Let

emh · « **Reply #40 on:** 19 January 2003, 06:20 »

I just think we should put Bush and Saddam together somewhere and have them in a bitch-slapping fight.

choasforages · « **Reply #41 on:** 19 January 2003, 07:19 »

about the korean war, my dad tells me that we were kicknig there asses up to a certain point, then the chinese starting pouring thru, and oops about the congress issue, my mistake. and i guess i should clarrify my position. i am not anti-american, what im against is those that work to take our freedoms. be it corperations, foriegner's, other americans, hell, even the president or a branch of the governement. also, the war in iraq, my dad wonders why we didn't finish them off back in the gulf war. also, why are we still buying oil from them. i really doubt that drug traffic brings more money then oil does. and about their former army, quantity doesn't always mean quality. but we are starting to stretch ourself's thin. we have people at the n. korea border, in afganistan, heading for the middle east, in other various shitholes of the world im glad im not at.. and also, what about the canidian soldeirs being bombed. i have a question for voidmain, knowing your experiance in this field, are the claims about the pilots being on stuff valid? or is the media taking us for a ride?

rant=off

Stryker · « **Reply #42 on:** 19 January 2003, 07:28 »

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Originally posted by DC:

Void main, every nuke/chem/bio warhead is equally dangerous, no matter who has them. Making Saddam give them up is good - AFTER you establish they have them - but the US is not in the position to ask that since they HAVE them themselves. Besides, who controls the nuke-countries? I don't see Iraqi inspectors snooping around US nuke facilities.

that's not true, when was the last time you heard the US use a nuke? we tend to put a lot of thought into that sort of decision. like right now and considering war. i think the US is a bit more responsible than Saddam. Saddam is likely to impulsively decide to use it. And I believe, i'm not sure, but i believe that UN (not US) weapon inspectors are wanting in iraq. And I am sure that the UN has their inspections of us, and if not we would not fight it.

Nobber · « **Reply #43 on:** 19 January 2003, 14:25 »

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Originally posted by Stryker:
that's not true, when was the last time you heard the US use a nuke?

Isn't the US the only country in history to have used a nuke in anger?

While most western countries would apparently have little to fear from a US packed up to the eyeballs with nukes and so on, other countries will understandably not feel so secure.

Pissed_Macman · « **Reply #44 on:** 19 January 2003, 15:47 »

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Originally posted by avello500:
note to saddam. soon, all your bases are belong to u.s.

LMAO!!! I don't remember if that's a Starcraft or Warcraft III code, though.