My expirince with Longhorn

[Canadian Lover]

Well, I decided to try out longhorn. My first problem with it is that the ISO image is too big to fit on a CD. I got around it by mounting it with daemon yools. After I installed, I promptly uninstalled it. I didn't detect my network card, or my sound card. Not to mention how slow it runs on my Athlon XP 2400+...

[toadlife]

I'd like to get a copy of Longhorn to play with. How did you get it? Via some bittorrent site, or legitimately?

[Canadian Lover]

bittorrent

[Aloone_Jonez]

Are you sure it's the latest version though?

[Lord C]

I have also tried it.


Wasn't very impressed tbh.
It has a rather bulky feeling. Like XP did, when 'upgrading' from Win'98.

[bedouin]

Not to mention how slow it runs on ym Athlon XP 2400+...

PC users are going to get a slight, though more severe taste of what Mac users went through five years ago in terms of migrating to an OS that demands more resources than what the most recent low-end machines offer.

The main difference being that a Mac from 1999 will run faster with Tiger installed than it would Puma or Cheetah.  Don't expect the same to happen with Longhorn.

Job's claims that Tiger is going to be the last major OS X update for some time, as well.  That means machines up to six years old will be adequately running an up-to-date OS for another three years or longer.

[Aloone_Jonez]

Most non computer geeks have fairly low-end machines so I can't see many people bothering to upgrade to Longhorn. I think the majority will just stick with XP. Most new software today will run on Windows 2000 (some only requires 98 or even 95) so I don't think Longhorn will become mandatory in the near future. We still use Windows 2000 at work on 128MB 650MHz machines and at college so if Windows XP hasn't become dominant in 4 years of its release I think MS will have a hard task to push everyone to upgrade to Longhorn. Because high end machines aren't required for most tasks poeple are upgrading less often and MS are just shooting them selves in the foot by making the mimimum hard requirements so high.

[toadlife]

Micorosft has never made the bulk of their OS profits from retail upgrades. They make it from computers which come with the OS preinstalled. People will continue to buy new computers, and those new computers will start to have Longhorn on them.

[BobTheHob]

Are you sure it's the latest version though?

version 4074 is on IRC, i can't be arsed to give linkage, plus i don't want to subject you to torture so i suggest some *NIX instead, you will be alot happier, its not that hard to find really, use packetnews or something, 4074 is about the latest you will be able to get a hold of, i don't really suggest it though, as it is trashy, not unlike every other microsoft product.

[Aloone_Jonez]

Micorosft has never made the bulk of their OS profits from retail upgrades. They make it from computers which come with the OS preinstalled. People will continue to buy new computers, and those new computers will start to have Longhorn on them.

Because most people are currently happy with their current hardware they won't bother to upgrade as often as they have in the past. As I've said before most people don't bother with the lastest hardware, most of the computers at work are 5 years old or older. You just don't need a lot of computing power for what most people use their computers for.

I only use my PC for word processing, colege work, surfing the net and maybe watching the odd DVD, now why would I need anything more powerfull than my 1800MHz 256MB machine? I've said on many occasions before I was happy with my old 200MHz 32MB machine until I spilt my drink on its motherboard last year. Someone on another forum was until very recently using a 486 and nothing else until it got slow, and it would've probably be ok if he just reinstalled Widnows 98, but he decided to buy a new 2.93GHz machine for some reason.

I certainly won't consider upgrading until a long time into the furture probably at least 10 or more years from now if ever.

[toadlife]

Because most people are currently happy with their current hardware they won't bother to upgrade as often as they have in the past. As I've said before most people don't bother with the lastest hardware, most of the computers at work are 5 years old or older. You just don't need a lot of computing power for what most people use their computers for.

That's silly. Todays computers are commodity peices of junk that aren't designed to last more than 3-5 years. People have been replacing their computers on a 3-5 eyar cycle for twenty years now. Your prediction that people will suddenly stop upgrading their machines because they don't need/want anything faster has been made by countless people over the past ten years.

I only use my PC for word processing, colege work, surfing the net and maybe watching the odd DVD, now why would I need anything more powerfull than my 1800MHz 256MB machine? I've said on many occasions before I was happy with my old 200MHz 32MB machine until I spilt my drink on its motherboard last year.

How many DVD's did you watch on your 200mhz machine? Tried installing the latest version of Linux on your 200mhz mahcine lately? If so, how long did it take to recompile your kernel?

Someone on another forum was until very recently using a 486 and nothing else until it got slow, and it would've probably be ok if he just reinstalled Widnows 98, but he decided to buy a new 2.93GHz machine for some reason.

Perhaps because he wanted to play DVD's and a game or two? Or perhaps he realized (correctly) that his machine was very old and was probably going to die sooner or later anyway.

I certainly won't consider upgrading until a long time into the furture probably at least 10 or more years from now if ever.

. Ten years? Just about every other part in your computer will not last ten years. Commodity x86 parts simply aren't designed to last that long. 5-7 years is feasable, if you buy quality components, but judging by  your setup (1800mhz/256 RAM) your mahchine already has a couple of years on it. Good luck.

My bold prediction: You'll do some kind of upgrade to your computer within three years. You will either want a faster computer to run some kind of new hardware/sofware, or some part of your computer will simply die and you won't be able to find a replacement part for it.

[muzzy]

Computing speed is something you get addicted to. Once you get used to stuff being fast, you can't live with it being slow. Or, you will and you'll be bitchy about it at all times. Same applies to network connectivity speeds

Anyway, I'm currently writing this on my lovely 500MHz AMD K6-II, with 1G mem. This system still runs like a superhero, unless I need to do something processing-heavy stuff such as video encoding, raytracing, batch compiles (or just compiling large software otherwise), cracking password hashes, etc... For everyday use, this is great and will remain so for a long time. However, having more power means you can do more interesting things. Computing power enables you to do more, so running on a slow box only works if you have no desire to do greater things.

[adiment]

Computing speed is something you get addicted to. Once you get used to stuff being fast, you can't live with it being slow. Or, you will and you'll be bitchy about it at all times. Same applies to network connectivity speeds

So true, that's why I started overclocking. :p...got got addicted.

"Longhorn" looks really bad. In fact, what the hell is the point of that side bar? Seriously, if you're not running like 1600x1400 theres no point. I can't imagine it on 1024x768 or less. It's hogging all the space and ram. If I upgrade to it, they better have the option to disable it.

Who knows, maybe LongHorn won't be so bulky and be very tweakable.

[jrdende]

While I hate to be the one to defend M$... you're all insulting a bootlegged unstable beta version of a product that's supposed to come out next year or later, and painting your judgements on the final product.  That's just stupid.

[BobTheHob]

While I hate to be the one to defend M$... you're all insulting a bootlegged unstable beta version of a product that's supposed to come out next year or later, and painting your judgements on the final product. That's just stupid.

My opinon is not based solely upon the lonhorn beta, my opinon is derived for the lack of programming capability on microhard-phallus's part. To tell you the truth, if hell was ever to freeze over and by some freak occurance winblows was made open source, i still wouldent use it. I havent used winblows for a couple months now, i took a vow awhile back to never use another microsoft product again for the rest of my life. microblow disgusts me with their unlawful FUD tactics and their general disregard of the basic practices of human decency.